Talk:ブラック

RFV discussion: July 2022–March 2023
Japanese. Rfv-sense:

—Fish bowl (talk) 01:04, 25 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Daijisen lists this, as visible at Weblio: https://www.weblio.jp/content/%E3%83%96%E3%83%A9%E3%83%83%E3%82%AF My local copy of Daijirin also has this sense.  A quick look at  suggests that this sense is attestable in use.  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 22:28, 25 July 2022 (UTC)


 * None of these are about black people. —Fish bowl (talk) 21:35, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, you're right, I was moving too quickly earlier and misinterpreted (the one I looked at in more depth was ultimately about someone named Black -- doh!).
 * Here's one example, talking more specifically about people: https://www.asahi.com/articles/ASN7X31M3N7QULFA03Q.html
 * This sense of black person / people might be more easily attestable in longer constructions than in isolation, such as we see in this book from 2004 or this edition of Japanese ELLE from April 2019.
 * It's certainly not common in Japanese usage, but it does seem to be present. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 22:43, 26 July 2022 (UTC)

I added three quotations. They are all in discussions of ‘international’ topics (black music, black/white racism, Haiti’s Black Jacobins), but they are all clearly talking about black people or culture. In my opinion, the word is a bit specialized – I feel like 黒人 is more common and ‘ordinary’ – but the word is used. Cnilep (talk) 03:25, 21 February 2023 (UTC)


 * RFV passed. Cnilep (talk) 05:52, 29 March 2023 (UTC)