Talk:了𠄏

Entry for 𠄏
Where is the entry for 𠄏? 173.89.236.187 19:46, 15 March 2014 (UTC)


 * The entry has been created. —suzukaze (t・c) 10:56, 8 June 2015 (UTC)

Actually used, or just a lexicographer's oddity?
Is this term actually used? Is the second character used in anything else? Or is this just an oddity? &#8209;&#8209; Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 17:37, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

This term was actually used. It basically only occurs in this reduplication compound, which was pronounced 'lew tew'. The second character was intentionally coined as the inverse-shaped form of 了, and looks like something hanging. It is sort of like how the sound-representing characters 乒乓 (pīngpāng, "ping-pong") were coined on the basis of the similar-sounding 兵 (bīng). The compound 'lew tew' was also written 了佻、了弔、了鳥、了尦. It is similar to  (assonance compounds) in Vietnamese, and the word is part of a larger phonesthemic word family "l... t..." ("hanging, stretching, extending, looseness, sluggishness, down and out") in Chinese, from which a large amount of words were derived, eg. 潦倒、浪蕩、郎當、啷噹、鋃鐺、莨菪、龍鍾、弔兒郎當. The word is still in use in some local speeches, although the word is not written and is not usually associated with these characters:


 * 《》第一卷：
 * “【了𠄏】 ①〈名〉門窗上的搭鈕. 官話. 清張慎儀《方言別錄》：‘～即今門窗上搭鈕. ’”（即懸垂之物）
 * “【了佻】 ①〈形〉瘦長. 江淮官話. 湖北廣濟. ③〈動〉懸掛著的. 江淮官話. 江蘇鎮江 ‘把屋樑上的～灰撣脫. ’”
 * “【了弔】〈名〉門上可掛鎖的搭扣. 北京. 清光緒十二年《順天府志》：‘順天人呼門邊懸鐵可加鎖者曰了弔. ’”
 * “【了弔兒】〈名〉門上的搭扣. ㈠ 東北官話. ……㈡ 北京官話. ……㈢ 冀魯官話. ……㈣ 膠遼官話. ……㈤ 晉語. ……㈥ 蘭銀官話. ……. ’”

Here are the definitions and variant characters for the second character in historical character dictionaries: 𠄏 (Change encoding to Chinese Traditional - Big5 if you see mojibake).

Historical attestations:


 * 《》(4th century CE)：
 * “我身西化時. 登上華岳山. 舉目看崑崙. 須彌了𠄏懸. 矯翼履清虛. 倏忽到天西. 但見西王母. 嚴駕欲東旋. 玉女數萬千. 姿容甚麗妍. 天姿絕端嚴. 齊執皇靈書. 誦讀仙聖經. 養我同時姝. 將我入天庭. 皇老東向坐. 身體曒然明. 授我仙聖道. 接度天下賢. ”
 * 大正新脩大藏經 · 第八十五冊《》(8th century CE)：
 * “大師云. 涅槃經說善解一字. 名曰律師. 文出經中證在中內. 又云. 此心有心不. 心是何心. 又云. 見色有色不. 色是何色. 又云. 汝聞打鐘聲打時有. 未打時有. 聲是何聲. 又云. 打鐘聲. 只在寺內有. 十方世界亦有鐘聲不. 又云. 身滅影不滅. 橋流水不流. 我之道法. 總會歸體用兩字. 亦曰. 重玄門. 亦曰轉法輪. 亦曰道果. 又云. 未見時見. 見時見更見. 又云. 瓔珞經云. 菩薩照寂佛寂照. 又云. 芥子入須彌. 須彌入芥子也. 又見飛鳥過. 問云. 是何物. 又云. 汝向了𠄏樹枝頭坐禪去時得不. 又云. 汝直入壁中過得不. 又云. 涅槃經說. 有無邊身菩薩. 從東方來. 菩薩身既無邊際. 云何更從東方來. 何故不從西方來. 南方北方來. 可即不得也. ”
 * 《》卷第五十七 (8th century CE)：
 * “了𠄏（又作了同丁皎反方言了𠄏懸也趙魏之閒謂懸曰𠄏郭璞曰了𠄏懸貌也(糹𠄏)是絹𠄏）. ”
 * 《注》 (18th century CE)：
 * “了，尦也. 尦，行脛相交也. 牛行腳相交爲尦. 凡物二股或一股結糾紾縳不直伸者，曰了戾. 方言. 軫，戾也. 郭注. 相了戻也. 淮南原道訓注，楊倞荀卿注，王砅素問注，段成式酉陽雜組及諸書皆有了戾字. 而或妄改之. 方言曰. 佻，縣也. 郭注. 了佻，縣物皃. 丁小反. 按他書引皆作了𠄏. 亦卽許之了尦也. 叚借爲憭悟字. 从子無臂. 象形. 象其足了戾之形. 盧鳥切. 二部. 凡了之屬皆从了. ”

Wyang (talk) 06:30, 9 April 2014 (UTC)


 * Very interesting. Thank you very much for that informative reply.  &#8209;&#8209; Eiríkr Útlendi │ Tala við mig 06:58, 9 April 2014 (UTC)