Talk:何曜日

RFV discussion: August 2018–January 2020
Not in the two online dictionaries; will see if any NDL books attest this. ～ POKéTalker（═◉═） 01:11, 28 August 2018 (UTC)


 * It looks to me like SOP as +.
 * I see from the entry history that Shinji created the entry. Shinji, can you make a case for this being a lexical term and not just a sum of its parts?  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 21:07, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * So when does 何 take its combining form? 83.216.81.134 21:44, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Interrogative prefix replaces only numerals. Compare  and, or  and .  is the only exception where the prefix doesn’t replace a numeral, probably created by analogy with  and . The grammatically regular form would be なにようび just like  and . なんようび is therefore a lexicalized term one has to memorize. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 22:46, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Should that be RFD, rather than RFV? It's definitely citable.
 * Shinji, do and  merit an entry? Are the words?
 * FWIW, compare with the Chinese, formed by and  . --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 23:01, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * and are clearly words, but some might say they are sums of parts because they are regular. Note that their literal translations are “what number-th month” and “what number-th day” and you can use  only for modern months. Imagine these dialogs:
 * As for Chinese, seems regular because they say, , etc. but it merits an entry. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 23:30, 29 August 2018 (UTC)
 * : Thanks. You may have noticed, I went ahead and created and.
 * As for, it wasn't a question, I used it as an example. To me, this question word seems quite irregular. It's asking about days of the week, not week numbers, following the pattern for making 6 out of 7 days of the week. However, you can't form the same question words with or , which are used to make days of the week. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 10:25, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * FWIW, does appear in cases where followed by a particle (何と, 何で, etc.), and in a few other set phrases where the 何 is not just a stand-in for a number:, , , .  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 15:12, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * is a regular combination of the interrogative numeral prefix and the counter : “how many kinds”. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 13:51, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
 * FWIW, does appear in cases where followed by a particle (何と, 何で, etc.), and in a few other set phrases where the 何 is not just a stand-in for a number:, , , .  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 15:12, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
 * is a regular combination of the interrogative numeral prefix and the counter : “how many kinds”. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 13:51, 4 September 2018 (UTC)


 * RFV-kept. This was the wrong venue to begin with, but the discussion seems to have morphed into a normal RFD discussion, with no consensus that it is SOP. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 04:15, 9 January 2020 (UTC)