Talk:姛

RFV discussion: December 2022–January 2023
Chinese. Rfv-sense: ideographic compound for 女同 (nǚtóng, “lesbian”). Tagged by — justin(r)leung { (t...) 07:45, 6 December 2022 (UTC)


 * Pinging who added this sense. — justin(r)leung { (t...) 07:46, 6 December 2022 (UTC)


 * . What do you mean by verifying? I guess you can search for the character on any site with some sinophonic LGBT population say Twitter... --Fourier-Deligne Transgirl (talk) 09:19, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
 * @Fourier-Deligne Transgirl: 'Verify' in Wiktionary jargon usually means citing evidence of widespread use, or at least three independent uses in durable media (so, usually not Twitter) over the period of a year or more. I often check things like newspapers, press releases, and the like. See Criteria for inclusion. Cheers, Cnilep (talk) 07:29, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * the thing about Chinese languages is that the homophobic (and fascist) Chinese Communist Party controls almost all medias and it's hard to find these occurrences among them, which means in this case the cited criteria actually contradict the Wikipedia's NPOV guideline. furthermore, as a human rights activist I'm actually trying to conduct studies on how the CCP seizes our own native languages and narratives and the means available to us to reclaim them, so basically a war of linguists against the CCP; leave a message on my talk page if you're interested in these. --Fourier-Deligne Transgirl (talk) 08:00, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Is this term used outside of Mainland China, say in Taiwan, where it's less restricted? Also, is this Internet slang? With a simple Google search, I am barely getting any results that are clear uses of this term. Would you be able to link to some uses (regardless of whether it's durably archived)? — justin(r)leung { (t...) 15:17, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * I think I've heard of Taiwanese posting that I guess. And I think it used to be an Internet slang, a homophobic one even, but then our community reclaimed it, or something similar to that. And maybe just search on Twitter... --Fourier-Deligne Transgirl (talk) 18:56, 7 December 2022 (UTC)


 * RFV failed. — justin(r)leung { (t...) 08:29, 18 January 2023 (UTC)

—Fish bowl (talk) 21:03, 23 May 2023 (UTC)


 * @Fish bowl
 * on Google gives the following results:
 * Weibo search (archive.ph):
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 * Weibo search (archive.ph):
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 * Weibo search (archive.ph):
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 * Weibo search (archive.ph):
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 * 内存溢出的猫 (talk) 13:22, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * None of these are durably archived, which means we might need to resend this to RFV for discussion. The quotes also need to span at least a year, which doesn't seem to be the case unless I'm missing something. — justin(r)leung { (t...) 14:18, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
 * @Justinrleung Then just do it. Neither did I expect it to be so widely used in terms of frequency before performing some searches, but I believe this usage has been around for several years, as it is not something suddenly went viral recently. Note that many results on Bilibili are posted in 2022, and it is hard to find older results on Chinese social media if not logged in. 内存溢出的猫 (talk) 14:32, 24 May 2023 (UTC)