Talk:情

I know Japan-speech not, but I see that "こころ" (kokoro) means "heart". Do Japan-people really pronounce 情 as kokoro? YauKwanKiu 16:46, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Not by itself. There may be a compound I'm overlooking, or it may be a poetic rewriting, or the database this entry originated from may be wrong. Cynewulf 16:49, 7 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Ah, maybe as a name -- the characters used for names and how they are read can be unpredictable. Cynewulf 16:53, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

Classifier
I think 段 and 份 are okay, at least in Mandarin. Dokurrat (talk) 07:46, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Stroke Order
Is the stroke order GIF correct? The alternate form of 心 is written with the left and then right side strokes first and then the long vertical stroke. See: 情 at zdic.net and any of the other characters here: characters with 忄 radical at zdic.net. Stroke order for Japanese for this character is the same as for Chinese. Pololanguage (talk) 10:39, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The stroke order shown on this page doesn't conform to the Taiwan or Hong Kong standards either: . I recommend adding two more gifs that show these variant stroke orders. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 10:58, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * It seems wrong. Here's Baidu's stroke order. ---&#62; Tooironic (talk) 11:58, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * It's not necessarily "wrong", but definitely non-standard. Making these GIFs is really time-consuming, so if you have time to spare, you can have a go at it following the instructions at c:Commons:Stroke Order Project/Graphics guidelines/Bitmap animations. — justin(r)leung { (t...) 13:53, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the ping. Assuming that the stroke order provided in commons:File:情-order.gif is based on that of mainland China, then the stroke order for the radical is incorrect (it should be left, right, middle) while the stroke order for the component  is correct. Note that a separate file will need to be created for the Japanese stroke order which has a different stroke order for the component  (horizontal, vertical, horizontal x2) while the stroke order for the radical  in Japan is same with that of mainland China (left, right, middle). Another file will need to be created for Taiwan  because the bottom right component  is written with a curved left stroke which is different from the character used in mainland China/Japan/Hong Kong which is written  with a vertical left stroke. Also, Taiwanese  is written left, middle, right. Does anyone know of the stroke order used in Hong Kong? KevinUp (talk) 18:03, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * The Hong Kong reference stroke order can be found here. It's essentially the same as Taiwan's except for the shape of . — justin(r)leung { (t...) 21:30, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I've changed the animated stroke order file. — justin(r)leung { (t...) 02:29, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks! By the way, would it be possible to add an additional parameter to so that optional captions such as "Mainland China" can be added to the diagrams when needed? I'm using  to do that at the moment but this will cause the stroke order diagrams to float to the left of existing tables. KevinUp (talk) 03:00, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I strongly support KevinUp's request here. "Stroke order" is just not enough- there are different stroke orders that are standard in different places, and there are stroke orders that are extremely common and are documented to exist but are not standard anywhere. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 04:32, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I've added some more options to . That being said, I feel like stroke orders floating to the right makes things clutter, and that's not ideal. Also, I feel that it's kind of redundant to show both the still and animated stroke orders. What are your thoughts? — justin(r)leung { (t...) 04:42, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Actually, I'm just requesting for someone to take a look at so that I can include details such as "Mainland China, Taiwan, Hong Kong" or "Japan" for certain characters that are known to have a different stroke order depending on region. I'm not really aware of common nonstandard stroke orders. If these do exist, we can still link it using the   parameter (eg. jbw, tbw, etc.).  Thanks for adding some more options to . KevinUp (talk) 04:46, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Common nonstandard stroke orders are covered by . The availability of these stroke orders depends on what we have over at Commons, though. — justin(r)leung { (t...) 05:11, 14 November 2018 (UTC)