Talk:改過自新

改過自新
I may not be knowledgable in Chinese, but by reading this, the term doesn't look idiomatic. It basically just means "to change oneself newly" doesn't it? Wouldn't that make the term SOP? Oh, and its synonym looks SOP as well. PseudoSkull (talk) 03:16, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. It is considered a chengyu. — justin(r)leung { (t...) 04:08, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. Idiomatic. Wyang (talk) 03:59, 12 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep. Idiomatic. Included in many Chinese dictionaries, including 现代汉语规范词典 and moedict. ---&#62; Tooironic (talk) 06:06, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep per the above. Basically an idiom. bd2412 T 01:11, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
 * Kept. — SMUconlaw (talk) 05:56, 24 September 2016 (UTC)