Talk:明星

RFD discussion: January 2019
RFD-sense of "a defunct magazine on idols, celebrities". A proper noun of a magazine, covered by WT:NSE. We do not routinely include magazine titles, and they seem an extraordinarily useless thing to include. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  08:39, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Delete. There have in fact been several magazines by that name, including a literary magazine (and a revival). --Lambiam 14:28, 9 January 2019 (UTC)


 * Bleh. That sense is patently not dictionary material.  I just reworked the  entry extensively, and omitted the magazine sense.  Please have a look.  In particular, I noted that Lambiam had marked the  sense for verification; I'm finding that sense in multiple monolingual JA dictionaries, such as can be seen here at Kotobank.  This usage appears to be unusual, but I cannot tell from my sources if it's historical and now archaic / obsolete, or just rare.  I've marked it as rare for now.  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 20:48, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * I had seen that too. But Japanese may be considered a well-documented language, so I feel we need to see actual uses. Dictionaries have been known to copy from each other, including errors. --Lambiam 21:34, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * The JA WP mentions the spelling in the アンタレス article, which spelling is listed in dictionaries as an alternative for  of the same akahoshi or akaboshi reading.  There also appear to be enough googits to suggest cromulence.    ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 22:10, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
 * All righty, I'm closing the RFD then. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  07:50, 10 January 2019 (UTC)


 * RFD resolved. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  07:50, 10 January 2019 (UTC)

RFV discussion: January 2019–February 2021
Can we verify the specific sense ? While Antares is a bright star (the literal meaning of 明星), I see no evidence this is used in Japanese to designate specifically that star. --Lambiam 10:32, 5 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Removed by @Eirikr in . — justin(r)leung { (t...) 21:33, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Actually, it seems to be moved to あかぼし. Is this verification still needed? — justin(r)leung { (t...) 21:36, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * If it helps any, Daijirin and the KDJ both list the "Antares" sense as seen here in Kotobank. ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 22:12, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Apparently resolved by moving the entry. &mdash; surjection &lang;??&rang; 17:50, 8 February 2021 (UTC)