Talk:朱鷺

Synonyms
, where did you find the info about ? I suspect that the -ō varieties may be readings for, listed in my local KDJ but apparently missing from Kotobank's. Are you sure about the -ao diphthongs? That could suggest a borrowing from a Chinese lect -- but the only one we show in the 🇨🇬 entry with a reading at all similar is Mandarin diāo, and that would probably be borrowed as じゃお or something like that. だお is also super weird for a local Japanese development, considering the historical kana spelling for of たう, with a clear う on the end and not an お.

Curious, ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 18:37, 7 April 2020 (UTC)


 * dao: トキ;
 * dao/doo/tao: 秋田昔ばなし「トキのむかし」.
 * —Suzukaze-c◇◇ 22:07, 7 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Thank you! According to the YouTube presenter, this is not a "regular" term per se but rather an onomatopoeia for the bird's call, so the -ao diphthong doesn't necessarily have anything to do with normal sound-shift rules for the older たう spelling of  -- though they may be related, with the underlying ZH term possibly also onomatopoeic.  See also this YouTube video, where (if it loads right) you should be able to hear a couple of the birds calling, and it does indeed sound like だお.
 * Cheers, ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 23:54, 7 April 2020 (UTC)

-- ? —Fish bowl (talk) 07:08, 4 May 2022 (UTC)

Spelling
, regarding spellings, Google Books and dictionaries both suggest that the single-character spelling is more common than  for the toki reading. There's also the compound. Any objections to moving the toki lemma to ? ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 18:40, 7 April 2020 (UTC)


 * I don't remember how I determined this. I don't mind. —Suzukaze-c◇◇ 22:00, 7 April 2020 (UTC)