Talk:火

Mandarin hypercorrection of initial /h/ to /f/
According to Hypercorrection, a common Taiwanese pronounce of /f/ as /h/ causes 火 to be hypercorrected to fuo3, especially in the Hakka population. Can this be confirmed? Rod (A. Smith) 19:33, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Eh, I doubt it. My mom's Chaozhou (it's so similar to Hokkien, or Taiwanese, to the point where it's like Portuguese and Spanish or English and German; you can look it up) and I don't know how their Romanizing system works, but she said it was something like "dot huai" and nothing that had to do with an F or H at all.


 * Ngau yuk means beef in Cantonese. But some people say au yuk. And ngaa is teeth, but people also say aa. I notice this on the radio all the time... not to be racist or anything, but I note it's usually natives from Hong Kong who talk like that.


 * But I don't think that it should be included, even if it is true... it's too much slang and not the formal term. Even English slang terms are frowned upon, and I think they're only added because United States is a superpower and all that jazz. I don't see slang included for other languages. Bribes 16:04, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Also "fiery"?
Can this also mean "fiery" in Mandarin? 71.66.97.228 06:54, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Japanese etymology
Hello, is the etymology for Japanese ひ reconstructed? If so, shouldn't we add asterisks signaling the uncertainty of the forms presented? Baloug (talk) 02:35, 3 April 2016 (UTC)


 * The phonetic shift from initial to  is well researched.  See also w:Old Japanese.  The initial  is certainly corroborated by writers in multiple other languages and scripts, so that at least is not reconstruction.  In my past studies, initial  had been presented to me as historical fact rather than reconstruction, but reading around now, I see that it is not so settled.  Feel free to add the * for the .  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 05:02, 3 April 2016 (UTC)