Talk:炮火的洗禮

RFD discussion: June–August 2017
SOP. Handled by 洗禮.--2001:DA8:201:3512:E49E:3757:EDD0:9CB5 12:05, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * If it is used as English baptism by fire, it should be kept. I suggest sending this to RFV. — justin(r)leung { (t...) 16:42, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * The English term is idiomatic does not mean the Chinese one is. baptism does not mean ordeal in English.--2001:DA8:201:3512:98C7:6612:A4DC:CF14 18:19, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Sure, but there doesn't need to be any actual 炮火 involved, right? How is it SoP then? — justin(r)leung { (t...) 18:23, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
 * I think this is idiomatic enough to be keepable. Wyang (talk) 09:05, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep because it doesn't literally involve firing at Christians. —suzukaze (t・c) 14:33, 14 June 2017 (UTC)


 * RFD kept: no consensus for deletion. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:30, 20 August 2017 (UTC)