Talk:為止

RFM discussion: December 2019
Can 為止 be used without 到? —Suzukaze-c◇◇ 07:21, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * In modern varieties, basically no, but there are some fossilized constructions like 迄今為止. — justin(r)leung { (t...) 08:40, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hm, then I suppose having both are fine (unless someone thinks 到……為止 should go). 為止 might benefit from usage notes. —Suzukaze-c◇◇ 09:51, 31 December 2019 (UTC)