Talk:石持

RFV discussion: March–September 2023
Japanese. Rfv-sense: any cardinalfish in the Apogonidae family

Kokugo Daijiten defines 石持/石首魚/いしもち as a synonym of either or, but doesn't include Apogonidae. (KDJ also includes two other definitions, which I added to 石持.) Japanese Wikipedia suggests that Apogonidae is (tenjikudai-ka); KDJ doesn't include テンジクダイ科 but defines  as Apogon lineatus. A disambiguation page at イシモチ, however, points to シログチ and テンジクダイ (the species A. lineatus). There is a great deal of regional variation in the names of fishes, so it is entirely likely that some speakers call cardinalfish 石持. I just haven't found any quotes yet.

This quote, from a fishing blog, seems to suggest that イシモチ is distinct from テンジクダイ科, though I'm not sure I understand it correctly.

By the way and for what it's worth, while I was searching I happened to notice that while 石頭魚 is a redlink on Japanese Wikipedia, it redirects to on Chinese Wikipedia. That is a type of scorpion fish; it cross-wikis to オニオコゼ on ja-wikipedia. Both 石持 and 石首魚 redirect to there. Cnilep (talk) 03:34, 22 March 2023 (UTC)


 * RFV failed for sense "cardinalfish in the Apogonidae family". Cnilep (talk) 04:00, 26 September 2023 (UTC)