Talk:肉粽

RFV discussion: July–September 2020
Rfv-sense: (Min Nan) zongzi (in general). — justin(r)leung { (t...) 07:56, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * My understanding is that it only refers to zongzi with meat fillings, not all zongzi, but I may be wrong. And in Singapore, we only use it to refer to the traditional Hokkien and Teochew styles too; it's not used to refer to Nyonya-style dumplings, which are instead called 娘惹粽. The dog2 (talk) 15:47, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * I think you're right. Definitions from various Min Nan dictionaries (emphasis mine):
 * 臺灣閩南語常用詞辭典: 用竹葉或月桃葉等包裹糯米、肉、香菇等食料，然後蒸煮製成的食品，是端午節的節慶食品.
 * A dictionary of Southern Min (Embree): small packet of meat and rice (wrapped in a leaf and steamed, cf ké-chàng)
 * Maryknoll Taiwanese-English Dictionary: glutinous rice pastry stuffed with meat and wrapped in bamboo leaves, then steamed or boiled
 * 台日大辭典: 糯米に肉類を入れ竹の葉に包み蒸した角黍.
 * 台日大辭典 (translated into Taiwanese): 有包肉ê粽.
 * 臺灣閩南語辭典 (under 粽): 包肉、香菇、蛋黃等料
 * Chinese-English dictionary of vernacular or spoken language of Amoy (Douglas, under tsàng): that confection made of rice and pork.
 * 普通话闽南语词典 (under 粽): 包猪肉、栗子、虾干、香菇等的五香粽子
 * 闽南方言大词典 (only has 燒肉粽 as an entry, just an excerpt of a longer definition): 烧肉粽的选料很讲究，不但糯米要精选，连香菇、虾米、栗子、猪肉都要精选.
 * 新加坡闽南话词典: 用粳米等拌肉（最好是三层肉即五花肉）、香菇等加上调料，在锅里稍炒一下，然后拿起来，包在竹叶（或其他可以包粽子的某些植物叶子），扎紧后，放在锅里煮熟后即可吃
 * Penang Hokkien Dictionary (bak1cang3): meat dumpling
 * They all agree that meat is an essential ingredient in 肉粽. — justin(r)leung { (t...) 17:55, 22 July 2020 (UTC)
 * In that case, we should just delete this sense then. The dog2 (talk) 18:08, 22 July 2020 (UTC)


 * RFV failed. — justin(r)leung { (t...) 20:43, 11 September 2020 (UTC)