Talk:菊の花

RFD discussion: September–October 2019
Had a, but it is a question of SOP so I'll list it here. - TheDaveRoss  12:41, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Meh. 🇨🇬 refers to the chrysanthemum plant, whereas  refers more specifically to the chrysanthemum flower.  But yes, as Japanese, it strikes me as SOP.
 * , anyone else active with JA entries, what are your thoughts? ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 16:59, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * The was my doing. Unless you want to mention a string quartet by Puccini or a kyogen of the, in dilemma. ～ POKéTalker（═◉═） 17:12, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep . is commonly heard in everyday speech and in widespread use. In contrast, the correct term for chrysanthemum flower,  is not often heard in everyday speech. If  is not Sino-Japanese, i.e. a native word, I would consider the term to be a sum of parts. KevinUp (talk) 17:34, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I'm genuinely confused by your position here. Sinic origins or Japonic origins seems irrelevant. We can find instances of  on Google: .  Or to pick another similar noun phrase consisting of a Sinic noun, the possessive particle, and a Japonic noun, we can find instances of : .  Would you similarly argue that these collocations are not SOP?  If so, why?  If not, why?
 * (No aggression or combativeness intended -- I'm honestly trying to understand your position, and where you see the boundaries of SOP-ness.) ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 18:24, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
 * I think you're right. The sinitic or Japonic origin of the term is irrelevant here. I got confused because of the existence of entries such as . Based on your reply I think does not qualify as a dictionary lemma. KevinUp (talk) 18:55, 17 September 2019 (UTC)


 * RFD deleted. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 04:09, 20 October 2019 (UTC)