Talk:菜花

RFV discussion: April 2020–February 2021
Chinese - Rfv-sense: genital warts (as opposed to gonorrhea). — justin(r)leung { (t...) 07:13, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * Justinrleung: Cited. RcAlex36 (talk) 08:57, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Some of them seem mention-y and most (if not all) of them are not durably archived AFAICT. — justin(r)leung { (t...) 18:13, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Now it should be cited. — justin(r)leung { (t...) 19:07, 29 January 2021 (UTC)


 * RFV passed. — justin(r)leung { (t...) 22:21, 15 February 2021 (UTC)

RFV discussion: April 2020–March 2022
Japanese - Rfv-sense: Alternative spelling of 菜の花. — justin(r)leung { (t...) 07:11, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
 * 「菜の花」「菜花」「花菜」は、そうしたアブラナの花芽の総称として使われています.
 * I'm not sure if this verifies it, or if anything could. It asserts that they refer to the same thing, but that's not the same as saying they are alternate spellings of the same word. For that, maybe you would need something like.
 * Also, I'm pretty sure I added the sense, maybe paraphrasing a work that I have forgotten. Sorry. Cnilep (talk) 05:44, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
 * FWIW, the page at Kotobank only lists the reading, as does the page at Weblio.
 * Looking at 菜の花, it seems that the spelling with the medial particle as  indicates Brassica flowers in general, while the spelling without the particle as  refers more specifically to those Brassica flowers that are edible.
 * There's also a Chinese-derived reading saika, but so far I've only encountered that in a single compound,, a kind of traditional sweet in the former of Japan, modern-day .  See also.
 * A search on Jim Breen's dictionary site suggests that the spelling without the medial  particle does appear with the nanohana reading as a feminine given name.  Perhaps that might be where  picked up on that?  ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 21:31, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
 * I find in dictionaries or word lists (e.g. here), but that is mention, not use. Of course, though, it is more common to specify the reading when discussing language. (The expression seems to refer to yellow butterflies on yellow rapeseed flowers; I don't know if it has metaphorical use as well.) Cnilep (talk) 03:03, 14 July 2021 (UTC)


 * One usage in : https://furigana.info/w/菜花
 * Reading XY as XのY is common in pre-modern writing. I'd wager that plenty of citations are hiding in old manuscripts. —Fish bowl (talk) 04:43, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * &mdash; not sure what the book is about, though. —[[User:Fish bowl|Fish bowl] (talk) 04:49, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * —[[User:Fish bowl|Fish bowl] (talk) 04:58, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * —Fish bowl (talk) 05:19, 12 January 2022 (UTC)
 * —Fish bowl (talk) 23:01, 13 March 2022 (UTC)


 * RFV passed —Fish bowl (talk) 23:01, 13 March 2022 (UTC)