Talk:


An undefined character at codepoint U+F069 in the Private Use Area of the Basic Multilingual Plane.. This isn't a term in any language. -- Liliana • 07:07, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete. It has no meaning to humans or computers. Methinks it was created to make some kind of point. Chuck Entz (talk) 07:35, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Do we have an appendix of Unicode codepoints? Perhaps we should, so we could banish things like this (undefined chars) to it. - -sche (discuss) 08:09, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * There's 6,400 undefined codepoints in the PUA of the BMP, 137,468 undefined codepoints in all PUAs in Unicode, and about a million undefined codepoints in Unicode. The only good think you can say about this entry is that if someone sees  (which on my screen appears as an epsilon with a dot belown, a diaeresis and acute accent above), it tells them that this isn't a standardly-defined character.--Prosfilaes (talk) 08:53, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Besides which, all undefined codepoints will look identical- literally, if you've seen one you've seen them all. The only way to go to one vs. the others is to copy-and-paste it into the search box. Chuck Entz (talk) 13:38, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * No, not all. Most people will see at least some codepoints in the PUA of the BMP as special characters; e.g.  is Betty Boop for me, and no other character so displays.  displays as some sort of Mayan die in some fonts and a capital h with acute in others. Undefined codepoints outside the PUA generally should display all the same, but some systems will display a symbol for the script (if that is known) and others will display whatever a font maker decided to shove in that square, standards be damned.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:17, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Betty Boop? How cool. It just looks like a Sanskrit conjunct to me. The second one looks like a small 3 or ezh. - -sche (discuss) 05:02, 27 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Strong keep — I came across this in the OED [2ⁿᵈ ed., 1989] entry for “ †sucˈcisive, a.” (URL: http://www.oed.com/oed2/00241405 ), where it appeared as a box. In the online version of the same entry (URL: http://oed.com/view/Entry/193355 ), it had become (a minuscule iota with a macron). It wasn't until I looked at the NED [1ˢᵗ ed., 1919] entry for “† Succi·sive, a.” that I realised that it was meant to be undefined: (a minuscule Latin-script undefined: with a macron and a breve). Googling  + unicode led me to learn that it is an undefined codepoint in the Private Use Area. In my browser's tabs, undefined: displays as . This little character caused me a lot of confusion, as I'm sure it would many other people. I'm not insistent on keeping the Translingual section, but I do think we should at least have some kind of notice telling people what this codepoint is, in case they ever use us to search for it. — Raifʻhār Doremítzwr ~ (U · T · C) ~ 15:18, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * There's 6,400 of these in the most commonly used PUA section, and 140,000 in all of them. We shouldn't have just one. Personally, I don't dump unknown characters in Wiktionary; that's a job for a character map, which comes installed by default on all major desktop operating systems.--Prosfilaes (talk) 22:17, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Possibly redirect to our Unicode appendix (the Private Use subpage). Equinox ◑ 15:20, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * That'd be fine, but is there a way of showing which codepoint this one is? — Raifʻhār Doremítzwr ~ (U · T · C) ~ 16:27, 26 March 2012 (UTC)


 * The browser's search function works quite well, in my experience. -- Liliana • 04:59, 27 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Umm, I just noticed... Appendix:Unicode/Private Use Area. There is no list yet. Someone needs to make one. -- Liliana • 05:00, 27 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Move to appendix. DAVilla 18:32, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete from mainspace. AFAICT from WP and what I know about Unicode anyway, PUA characters have no set glyph or meaning. We can't define this because it varies from OS to OS and font to font and, hence, author to author. &#x200b;—msh210℠ (talk) 21:34, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. We shouldn’t have any private use area characters. Likewise, we have already decided not to have meaningless hangeul syllables (I don’t know why we have 룘). — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 00:06, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

Deleted. — T AKASUGI Shinji (talk) 02:37, 18 August 2012 (UTC)