Talk:-ний

Hello. Does the Ukrainian suffix have a soft variant, similarly to Russian (-ный ~ -ний) and Belarusian (-ны ~ -ні)? --Per utramque cavernam 13:48, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * AFAIK the Ukrainian suffix is always soft. Ukrainian does not have the sound denoted in Russian by [ы], and underwent the universal sound change ы -> и. Benwing2 (talk) 20:49, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * : The Ukrainian ending is always hard. Benwing2, the Ukrainian и is the Russian ы. —Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 20:58, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * (e/c) OK, I checked and Ukrainian does have an equivalent of Russian -ний, which is written -ній, e.g. . The н in [ний] is soft AFAIK but it is hard in some of the inflections, whereas the н in [ній] is always soft. Benwing2 (talk) 21:01, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * I am not very familiar with Ukrainian but I thought that consonants were pronounced soft before [и]; I guess not. Benwing2 (talk) 21:02, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks to you both. A few more questions, if you don't mind:
 * do you know the origin of the soft variant?
 * about the stress: is Russian -ный always unstressed, and -но́й always stressed?
 * What about Russian -ний? Does it have a stressed version parallel to -но́й (-не́й?)?
 * --Per utramque cavernam 20:21, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I don't know the answer.
 * Correct. Good guess. -ий is never stressed either. This is different from be/uk.
 * No parallel. --Anatoli T. (обсудить/вклад) 00:43, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The origin of soft adjectives is presumably PIE adjectives in -yos, corresponding to Latin adjectives in -ius and Greek adjectives in -ιος (or -ος following an originally palatalized consonant). Benwing2 (talk) 01:35, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
 * The origin of soft adjectives is presumably PIE adjectives in -yos, corresponding to Latin adjectives in -ius and Greek adjectives in -ιος (or -ος following an originally palatalized consonant). Benwing2 (talk) 01:35, 15 May 2018 (UTC)