Talk:187

187

 * procedural note: if this ends up being deleted, please remove link at 187 (murder) Robert Ullmann 16:18, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


 * 187 (Police code)

Should we include police radio codes in a dictionary? I don't think so, but others may disagree. Doubtful it has entered regular language usage. Also, don't these codes vary between different jurisdictions.--Dmol 13:48, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete In the US, they should differ by state. Are there many of these? DCDuring 17:41, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep Hmmm. Maybe this one is a keeper: for "187 in progress", 4 apparent (3 confirmable) crime-novel hits on b.g.c. 3 additional b.g.c. hits for "subject:fiction" "a 187" "radio". Also some rap-music lament: "My love is a 187." Are there other grounds for deletion? If not I'm willing to attest this one. DCDuring 18:03, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

Keep. Here is a list of cites from b.g.c. There are more; but hopefully this should be enough.

1) Gang Cop: The Words and Ways of Officer Paco Domingo - Page 131 by Malcolm W. Klein - Social Science - 2004 - 176 pages

Paco came across a wall that, in the large block letters of local Hispanic gang graffiti, spelled out “187 Domingo.” This was the ultimate threat for Paco ...

2) Songs in the Key of Black Life: A Rhythm and Blues Nation - Page 164 by Mark Anthony Neal - Music - 2003 - 224 pages

... scrutiny as the recording "Cop Killer" was cited for advocating attacks on ... and Snoop Dogg blatantly rapped about doing "187 on an undercover cop" on ... 

3) Vertical Coffin - Page 256 by Stephen J. Cannell - Fiction - 2004 - 400 pages

Perp at this address is a possible One-eight-seven P. Request a unit respond Code Three." The RTO came back immediately and put out the call division-wide. ...

4) Pray For Death - Page 21 by Cash Pawley

Respond to a one-eight-seven at nine-eight-six Cove Road North," the dispatcher continued in her heavy southern drawl. "10-4... En route. ...

5) Ww III: Warshot - Page 148 by Ian Slater - Fiction - 1992

A code one-eight-seven on Jefferson one-four-eight-nine. Corner store—7-Eleven." A 187 was a homicide, Jefferson, the other side of town. ... sewnmouthsecret 18:25, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

OK, this one is looking good to pass CFI on the strength of the usage shown here, but I'm more concerned with the floodgates opening and someone dumping them all in here, regional variations and all. Will we stick with the same CFI rules, 3 archived cites for them.--Dmol 21:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * The rules rule, but can change. Note that this code is for murder and is from the most populous US state, and one with a large entertainment industry, including writer population. I wouldn't expect too many of these and promise not to look for them. DCDuring 23:14, 29 October 2007 (UTC)


 * I have inserted the above five cites into entry. Pray for Death is a self-published novel. Does that matter for this purpose? DCDuring 20:19, 1 November 2007 (UTC)


 * An OT note on this still-open RfD. The PoS for this entry is now "Cardinal number". We may need to make a PoS section for the number, but isn't the police code something else. It seems to be a noun, pronounced as its constituent digits.