Talk:AIDS whore

Needs 3 cites. —  [Ric Laurent] — 21:18, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Even if it is cited, it is still SoP: AIDS + whore. -- Liliana • 22:45, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It seems to be cited, though I haven't checked the citations individually. Why would this be sum of parts? Which sense of AIDS and of whore? Mglovesfun (talk) 22:57, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It's well cited now but it's not SOP, it isn't used in any of the citations to describe a "prostitute" with "AIDS" but rather someone that "dirty" "unwanted" "gay" "diseased" "bitch" and "contemptible".Lucifer (talk) 23:00, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That it doesn't use the oldest or most literal sense of whore: or even any sense that we yet have is not a sufficient argument. DCDuring TALK 23:23, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * It's not used to refer to what the two words mean literally, and in fact it means something completely different. That is the definition of idiomatic. And that's just a fact.Lucifer (talk) 23:27, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I was responding to what you wrote not what you wish you'd written. DCDuring TALK 23:32, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * AIDS whore is defined as "nasty" that is very different than "late stage HIV prostitute" and that is idiomatic.Lucifer (talk) 02:20, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * This collocation amounts to evidence supporting a sense whore:, which should be easy to cite with other collocations as well as unmodified. DCDuring TALK 23:32, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The citations show in general it means dirty and directed at a disliked individual oftentimes of certain demographic groups.Lucifer (talk) 02:25, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * That would make it a lot like other terms of abuse constructed using the word whore. "Viking whore", "rotten ould whore", "idiot whore" are the examples in the citations at whore:. Others that can be found include "cancer whore", "crack whore", "drug whore". There is a long history of the use of whore in compound insults without specific evidence that the target was a whore in any specific sense. DCDuring TALK 03:00, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Both crackwhore and AIDS whore are common set terms used a single word that mean more than the sum of parts.Lucifer (talk) 03:31, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
 * Like I've said to you many times before, it is not enough for you to say "this must be kept, this is common, this means what I claim it means". You must provide evidence and not anecdotes. Equinox ◑ 02:15, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
 * I said it means what the citations on the entry say it means, evidence that you could easily read honey.Lucifer (talk) 01:28, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
 * The 2001 and 2006 citations seem crystal clear, and the others seem to line up with those. BenjaminBarrett12 (talk) 20:17, 25 March 2012 (UTC)


 * Secondarily, note that the definition is an awful word salad, and full of what Wikipedia calls "weasel words": considered, perceived ("perceived as ... HIV positive"?! you either are or aren't, and it isn't a dictionary's job to pussyfoot around what the word actually means). Equinox ◑ 22:46, 12 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Deleted as SOP. I moved the citations to the citations page, in case anyone wants to use them to cite a sense of "whore". - -sche (discuss) 22:49, 25 August 2012 (UTC)