Talk:Annuit cœptis

RFV discussion: December 2020–February 2021
1. US Seal and US 1$ bill are two non-independent usages. Thus two more usages are needed. 2. On the seal it's "ANNUIT CŒPTIS - NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM" in all caps, regular spelling would rather give "annuit cœptis" or "Annuit Cœptis". --11:47, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Related discussion: (Latin). J3133 (talk) 18:04, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
 * We might consider listing this in Appendix:List of Latin phrases. --Lambiam 16:37, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * As to the assertion that the US seal and the $1 bill are not independent, isn't that like saying two issues of Variety are not independent (which would probably wipe out one Etymology of -er? Or two books from the same publisher? Don't we usually count usage in two works by the same author as independent? DCDuring (talk) 03:56, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * The current version of the US one-dollar bill does not simply re-use the motto, but sports on the reverse a complete depiction of both sides of the . Being complete, the image contains the mottos that occur on the Great Seal. They are not different works, but one is a copy of the other. --Lambiam 13:56, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Re “Don't we usually count usage in two works by the same author as independent?”: : “Roughly speaking, we generally consider two uses of a term to benon-independent if:• both are by the same author.” J3133 (talk) 14:35, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the answers. I was just too lazy/tired to think it through and look it up. I wonder what "roughly speaking" is supposed to mean. DCDuring (talk) 16:20, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

RFV-failed Kiwima (talk) 20:49, 4 February 2021 (UTC)