Talk:Austrick

RFV discussion: November 2020–January 2022
See also Beer_parlour/2020/November.

Austrick
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Buryatie
RFV failed (admin please delete)

Californie
RFV failed

Cambodie
RFV failed (admin please delete)

Cape Toun
RFV failed (admin please delete)

Chechnie
RFV failed

Chuvashie
RFV failed

Egyp
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Guatemala Ceety
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Indonesie
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Ingushetie
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Kabardino-Balkarie
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Kalmykie
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Karachay-Cherkessie
RFV-failed. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:19, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Karelie
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Kenyae
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Latvie
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Maurs
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Mongolie
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Nigerie
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

North Ossetie-Alanie
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

North Rhine-Westphalie
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Panama Ceety
RFV failed

Romanie
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Sirie
RFV failed

Slovakie
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Slovenie
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Sooth Carolina
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Sooth Dakota
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Udmurtie
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Unitit States
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

aurie
RFV failed

caipital
RFV failed Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:26, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

naition
Scots words added by somebody who doesn't know Scots. No obvious trustworthy Scots hits in a web search. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 17:17, 20 November 2020 (UTC) RFV failed (for naition). Vox Sciurorum (talk) 11:31, 30 January 2022 (UTC)
 * I am marking some of these with the Middle Scots label if I can find one pre-1700 use. I assume one pre-1700 use is enough for Middle Scots.  If not, it will fail RFV.  Evidence of modern use is welcome, otherwise the RFV should be resolved without deleting the entry.  So far,, , .  Vox Sciurorum (talk) 20:14, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * if I'm not mistaken, Middle Scots is classified under Middle English on Wiktionary. (see Category:Middle Scots) Thadh (talk) 20:38, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * @Thadh: sco adds the term to the Middle Scots category. With language code enm the Middle Scots label is not recognized as special.  The category description reads "This category contains Middle Scots: terms or senses in Middle English as spoken in Scotland from c. 1450 to 1700."  That is after the end of Middle English.  The wording should be changed to "terms or senses descended from Middle English, as spoken in Scotland from c. 1450 to 1700".  Vox Sciurorum (talk) 20:49, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
 * CAT:Middle Scots, however, is a subcategory of CAT:Scottish Middle English, not of CAT:Scots language, and Module:etymology languages/data lists its parent as, not  . And while enm doesn't add a category, enm adds CAT:Scottish Middle English, a category which also includes CAT:Early Scots. Chronologically, though, only Early Scots is really contemporaneous with Middle English, while Middle Scots (except for a 50-year overlap from 1450 to 1500) is contemporaneous with Early Modern English. And all of the entries in CAT:Middle Scots are actually Scots entries anyway, not Middle English (though some have listings for both langauges). So I suggest we formalize the de facto status quo and make Middle Scots an etymology-only variant of Scots rather than of Middle English (but keep Early Scots an etymology-only variant of Middle English). However, one consequence of doing that will be that we can no longer put sco into Scots etymologies, because an etymology-only variant of a language cannot also be an ancestor of the same language. —Mahāgaja · talk 21:50, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
 * I wonder if we should change that and allow (modern) languages to derive words from earlier, etymology-only temporal stages of themselves; we had this issue before with people wanting/trying to derive Hebrew words from Biblical Hebrew. Mehhh. Anyway, I agree with the rest of your comment. - -sche (discuss) 05:24, 28 December 2020 (UTC)

snawbuird
This one is more plausible, +, but I haven't seen a citable use. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 17:43, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

RFV failed. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:38, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

gemme
In DSL as an obsolete variation of gem. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 15:12, 21 November 2020 (UTC)
 * RFV failed. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 10:51, 30 January 2022 (UTC)

Tunisie
Proper names not in DSL or scots-online.org. Likely coined by the contributor following a pattern because the English -ia to Scots -ie change does show up in some documented place names. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 15:22, 21 November 2020 (UTC)


 * RFV failed with no citations except for which I marked as Middle Scots.  It is used three times in one pre-1700 work, quotations in A Dictionary of the Older Scottish Tongue.  If anybody wants to strictly apply CFI, go ahead and delete it.  Otherwise I'm willing to tolerate limited attestation for Middle Scots if it appears in a work considered by DSL to be Scots worth preserving.  Vox Sciurorum (talk) 20:56, 17 January 2021 (UTC)