Talk:Ayyadurai

RFV discussion: November 2022–February 2023
Can only find a name. &mdash; S URJECTION / T / C / L / 15:26, 13 November 2022 (UTC)


 * Obviously created in error: the definitions are 1. "He was a Durai (ruler) for the region" and 2. "Durai was the title/surname for rulers of medieval Tamil Country". So if anything it must be a person's name with capital A. Equinox ◑ 23:47, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

sorry if it has any mistakes. I already added the sources to describe the page's meaning.

1. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ayya and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayya 2. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/durai


 * We can see that "Ayyadurai" exists as a surname. But you entered this as an English lowercase common noun, "ayyadurai", plural "ayyadurais", not as an English proper noun "Ayyadurai" (being a name), or as a word in Tamil. Do you have evidence that shows the word "ayyadurai" being used as a term for a ruler in English, and not just as a name? 98.170.164.88 00:41, 23 November 2022 (UTC)


 * It's corrected now. Yeah, there are many sources to verify. "Ayya" is a common prefix to denote honorable for "Durai".
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 * Phonex01 (talk) 02:14, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
 * I cannot view any of those sources. How many of them use "Ayyadurai" as an English word meaning either "an honorable Durai (ruler) for the region" or "Durai was the title/surname for rulers of medieval Tamil Country"? I would guess none of them. No matter what, links aren't enough - they have to be added into the entry as quotes. &mdash; S URJECTION / T / C / L / 06:47, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Hello,
 * Sorry. Those are reliable references. My intention was to add the records which I know for wiktionary people of Tamilnadu.
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 * Many people are using the surname. It's English ruler word in South India as those sources. Thank you. Phonex01 (talk) 14:49, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
 * Only the last one of these supports anything here, and it supports Ayyadurai being a surname, not an English word meaning "an honorable Durai (ruler) for the region" or "Durai was the title/surname for rulers of medieval Tamil Country". &mdash; S URJECTION / T / C / L / 15:13, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
 * Pls have a look:
 * 1. https://books.google.co.in/books?id=NlacEAAAQBAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=PA184&dq=durai+ruler&hl=en&source=newbks_fb&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=durai%20ruler&f=false
 * 2. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ayya
 * 3. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayya#:~:text=Ayya%20(Pali%20word)%2C%20Ayya,whose%20Tamil%20name%20is%20Ayya
 * 4. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oomaithurai (Oomai Durai)
 * It's just a surname for minor rulers of Tamilnadu. I might be mistaken that unadding the "surname" word to the noun section. Phonex01 (talk) 19:00, 18 December 2022 (UTC)

as User:Surjection said, you need to add in quotations, not just bare links (which don't even work for me...). Also, you can't use other Wiktionary pages as a reference—that doesn't make any sense. For now, RFV Failed for the second sense "Chief, lord; master, ruler; gentleman, nobleman;", the surname sense was never challenged. Ioaxxere (talk) 01:33, 23 February 2023 (UTC)