Talk:Banderastan

RFV discussion: July–September 2022
WT:DEROGATORY likely applies. 98.170.164.88 22:52, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Cited. Holy carp that was a lot of digging through far-right sources. Whoop whoop pull up Bitching Betty ⚧️ Averted crashes 02:31, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Hmmm, other than the Twitter quote, these sources will likely have to be voted upon since they’re not currently under the “durably archived” clause. (CC: ) AG202 (talk) 04:06, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
 * In that case, failed. — Sgconlaw (talk) 19:14, 20 September 2022 (UTC)

RFC discussion: March–June 2022
Equinox ◑ 23:29, 7 March 2022 (UTC)


 * "contemporary" Ukraine signifies and implies the nation of Ukraine in its current form after the US-instigated coup in 2014 2602:306:CEC2:A3A0:5E5:4370:927D:7990 23:37, 7 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Hmm, why would the far-right Bandera's name be used to refer to Ukraine after a point at which its government opposed him and shifted leftward, rather than e.g. referring to the more rightwing Ukraine of 2010 when Yushchenko awarded Bandera the title of Hero of Ukraine? - -sche (discuss) 20:07, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Then again, I guess why does Putin say a Jew whose family killed and were killed by Nazis is a "Nazi"?... I hear "Banderite" was a Soviet-era slur for people who wanted an independent Ukraine, so it wouldn't surprise me if this were a Soviet-inspired term, older than the 2010s and with a definition along the lines of what Mahagaja suggests. - -sche (discuss) 17:19, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
 * zamknij mordę, ruski trollu Shumkichi (talk) 04:24, 10 May 2022 (UTC)


 * Is this even attested, by the way? (I had added a link to Bandera's WP article earlier, trying to give context for those who didn't know of him.) 70.172.194.25 00:17, 8 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Yeah, moving this to RFV might answer both questions (is it attested? and, how early is it attested and what era does it refer to?). - -sche (discuss) 20:07, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Incidentally, Jewkraine has the exact same definition, and they're both problematic. Pending attestation, I strongly suspect that a better definition of Banderastan is along the lines of "Ukraine perceived as controlled by fascists" and a better definition of Jewkraine is along the lines of "Ukraine perceived as controlled by Jews". —Mahāgaja · talk 08:49, 10 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Both entries (Banderastan, Jewkraine) have clearer definitions/etymologies now. I think this solves the RFC side of things. If anyone wants to RFV them, that's a separate matter. - -sche (discuss) 23:23, 23 June 2022 (UTC)