Talk:Bart Simpson

Bart Simpson
due process--Perdedora (talk) 02:55, 9 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Note there are four citations given, along the lines of "the Bart Simpson of (some sphere of activity)". Our current definition does not list any traits of Bart Simpson that would explain such uses. (My preference is to delete, though.) Equinox ◑ 10:18, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete, per the vote on disallowing names of individuals. No need to hold fictional people to a lower standard than real people. 'The Bart Simpson of' should be treated no differently to 'the Barack Obama of' or 'The Cristiano Ronaldo of'. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:53, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete as is. Compare Benedict Arnold, for which the term is used as an exact substitute for the word "traitor". Rather than saying "Joe was like Benedict Arnold", or "Joe was the Benedict Arnold of the group", writers say "Joe was a Benedict Arnold". I see nothing equivalent for Bart Simpson. bd2412 T 18:02, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * I may have found an actual use:
 * Apparently a few people also have a concept of Bart Simpsonization, meaning something like "delinquency":
 * ~ Röbin Liönheart (talk) 18:51, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Haven't found any more, though. I say and replace with an  pointing to the Wikipedia entry. ~ Röbin Liönheart (talk) 20:08, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * ~ Röbin Liönheart (talk) 18:51, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Haven't found any more, though. I say and replace with an  pointing to the Wikipedia entry. ~ Röbin Liönheart (talk) 20:08, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
 * ~ Röbin Liönheart (talk) 18:51, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Haven't found any more, though. I say and replace with an  pointing to the Wikipedia entry. ~ Röbin Liönheart (talk) 20:08, 10 January 2013 (UTC)


 * We would need something structurally more like:
 * 2009, Paul Mason, Meltdown: the end of the age of greed, page 131:
 * To fulfil its promise and maintain its ideological grip in a world full of Bart Simpsons, neoliberalism would now have to deliver one thing above all: relentless growth.
 * This would qualify if the author used the name, without explanation, to convey the characteristics of the people with which such a world was filled. However, in this case it looks more the author describes who Bart Simpson is and then speculates about this kind of world, which is the opposite of using the name as a word with presumed meaning. I agree with the idea of an "only in Wikipedia" signal. bd2412 T 22:23, 10 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Compare Homer Simpson, by the way, where the definition refers not to a fictional character but to a particular kind of person. Equinox ◑ 13:34, 11 January 2013 (UTC)

It's had a few months to justify its existence. I'm calling this failed. Deleted and replaced with an. ~ Röbin Liönheart (talk) 18:49, 26 May 2013 (UTC)