Talk:Buffyspeak

Some changes
I have restored some of what you removed, because (i) your revised definition is less helpful, not describing what Buffyspeak is like, only where it occurs; (ii) I have frequently seen this used online (and I think even academically) beyond Buffy to refer to that slangy teenagey chit-chat style in general, e.g. modern Doctor Who's "wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey", and perhaps stuff like Firefly (can't say I watch much TV) &mdash; use RFV if this is an issue; (iii) the synonym would seem to refer to Whedon's characteristic style rather than only one series he has worked on. Equinox ◑ 12:11, 15 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Not a useful citation as such, but supporting my point:


 * 2019, Juliette C. Kitchens, ‎Julie L. Hawk, Transmediating the Whedonverse(s) (page 152)
 * Buffyspeak has also rhizomatically traversed into other shows, both within and beyond the Whedonverse; for example, the similar use of language by Topher in Dollhouse (2009–2010) and the teenagers of Caprica (2009–2010).


 * Equinox ◑ 13:02, 15 April 2020 (UTC)


 * 1. I was concerned that trying to qualitatively describe Buffyspeak ran the risk of conveying a value judgment within the definition. It's why I chose the description "novel." I thought it effectively communicated that the slang was invented by TV writers (i.e., not a natural product of actual youth culture), but avoided the pitfalls of descriptions like "vague" or "creative," which could be read as either criticism or praise of the writing.
 * 2. Most of the citations I found seemed to use Buffyspeak in the first sense. But the citations you've provided do support there being at least one additional sense. I think this could be handled in a "by extension" manner, since the second sense is obviously a product of the first: "(by extension) a type of casual, youth culture-influenced dialogue used in other fictional media, which mimics or resembles the invented slang of Buffy the Vampire Slayer." Or maybe "Valley Girl-influenced" instead? That's something that seems to be supported by a number of citations.
 * Just some thoughts. ("Rhizomatically traverse" is certainly an interesting way to say "spread out.") WordyAndNerdy (talk) 14:06, 22 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Anything new can be "novel", but not everything new is Buffyspeak! ( sense 2 tells you more or less what you can expect from Dickens.) BTW, that "rhizomatically" is . Equinox ◑ 14:42, 22 April 2020 (UTC)


 * Fair point. Tweaked the first def. WordyAndNerdy (talk) 03:42, 24 April 2020 (UTC)