Talk:Endung

RFV discussion: January 2017
Rfv-sense: "case". It's marked as obsolete, but I'm doubtful it ever had that meaning. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 10:25, 24 January 2017 (UTC)


 * It had and it's easily attestable.
 * Justus Georg Schottel in his Ausführliche Arbeit von der Teutschen HaubtSprache (1663, i.e. in the 17th century) uses similar terms, e.g. he has "Nennendung" but maybe not the simplex "Endung" but instead a compound.
 * Gottsched (18th century) mentions it in a list of technical terms, "Casus, die Endungen", and uses it, e.g. "Diese sechs veränderten Endungen haben die Lateiner CASUS, oder Fälle genennet: wir aber können sie besser schlechtweg, Endungen heißen", "Die erste Endung, der Mann, die Frau, das Kind"
 * Adelung (18th/19th century) used it. Mentioning in his dictionary: "Besonders werden bey den Nennwörtern ihre Abänderungen in der Declination Endungen genannt, welche bey den Lateinern Casus heißen [...] Die erste Endung, der Nominativ; die zweyte Endung, der Genitiv, u.s.f.". One of several usages in his dictionary: "Als eine Präposition, welche mit der dritten Endung [= dative] des Nennwortes verbunden wird [...]".
 * It was also used regarding other languages, e.g. Anton Janežić used it for Slovene ("[...] sechs Endungen [...] Die erste Endung oder Nennendung (Nominativ) steht [...]"), and Rudolf Fröhlich used it for "Illyrian" (not the ancient language but something still used in 19th century) ("Endungen sind sieben: Die Nennendung (nominativus). [...]").
 * One can easily find many more examples. -Lücht (talk) 16:05, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * OK, thanks for that. (I suspect Fröhlich's "Illyrian" is Serbo-Croatian, which does have seven cases.) —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 16:16, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Indeed, says the language was often called Illyrian or Illyric in the 19th century. —Aɴɢʀ (talk) 16:19, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
 * Now three cites are inside the entry, and above are given four other usages. So it's cited.
 * BTW, as for the first cite in the entry: "Endungen der Hauptwörter" means cases of the substantives and doesn't mean terminations or suffixes as Latin has more than six terminations (-a, -ae, -us, -um, -i, -o, -is, ...). "zweyte Endung der einfachen Zahl" means genitive singular.
 * -Lücht (talk) 09:40, 25 January 2017 (UTC)