Talk:Exel-Tol

RFV discussion: June 2021–February 2022
Dutch hamlet, little on BGC and even on Delpher, there's also some inconsistency about the use of a space or a hyphen in nondurable results from a web search. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  11:34, 13 June 2021 (UTC)


 * This hamlet falls into the broad category of what I term "dubious settlements" (i.e. settlements where it's unclear whether they actually exist or not), but there's fairly strong evidence that this one does but is not listed on Wikipedia for whatever reason. Google Maps lists it as being located South-West of Exel, and plaatsengids.nl is able to provide some substantiated history about the hamlet's origins. The inhabitants of Exel also seem to regard it as an independent location. The combination of these factors convinced me of the existence of the hamlet. I won't mind if the page is deleted (I've got a big list of similar places that I'll publish for discussion once all "verified" Dutch toponyms have been added), but I don't think it's worth the bother. 030BeterHe (talk) 22:37, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I agree that the settlement is most likely real, but I have my doubts about the citability of this and if it is citable, I am not sure whether the main form should be hyphenated or spaced. I strongly urge you to focus first on settlements that are easy to attest on Google Books (3 independent durable cites showing uses over a period of more than a year) and save more difficult ones for later. "Dubiousness" per se is not really a criterion here, attestation is. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  13:45, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * I definitely focus on attestable settlements first. This is the only one I've added that cannot be found on Wikipedia, and only because plaatsengids.nl was able to provide some solid information on it. On the topic of attestations, I took a look and found at least two and technically three: the first is an article about a motorcycle accident near the hamlet, the second is an article about a population of frogs near the hamlet, and the third is the page on plaatsengids.nl, which also discusses the problem of spelling. I don't know if that's enough attestations, so I won't mind if you decide to delete the page anyway (I'll just list it along with other settlements that are hard to attest/may or may not exist when I've finished upgrading all the older lemma's). 030BeterHe (talk) 13:59, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Thank you for that. The PDF is a valid durable attestation ("In deze periode zijn de populaties van Exel-Tol en van het Aaltense Goor verdwenen.", page 192), but the other two do not seem durable at all. But put this and this beside Delpher and it does look like this may in fact pass. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  14:12, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
 * Can someone please cite this? We can't leave requests open forever. Thanks in advance. &mdash; Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 00:06, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

RFV-failed. Vox Sciurorum (talk) 20:09, 24 February 2022 (UTC)