Talk:Hand of God

Hand of God
Sure this is an inclusible term? -- Liliana • 03:17, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete, encyclopedic. Or should we add the Holy Roller? bd2412 T 03:55, 20 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. The term was Maradona's excuse for the goal, not the goal itself, but in any case this would still be encyclopdic.--Dmol 21:01, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
 * When asked about the goal, Maradona said that he did it "un poco con la cabeza y un poco con la mano de Dios", i.e. "a bit with the head and a bit with the hand of God", which means that he thinks he was lucky. Since then, the goal has been known as "hand of God goal". In this context "hand of God" looks more like an adjective than a noun. Anyway, I'm for delete.--Hekaheka 05:44, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete. Sort of. I don't see how this is different from World War II so I'll go for a very, very weak delete. Mglovesfun (talk) 21:47, 20 September 2011 (UTC)


 * keep. I've heard this being used in football. With good enough searching, this is surely valid, with a change of meaning, adding Maradona's quote to etymology. The definition could be "a deliberate handball, especially one to score a goal or save a goal" --Rockpilot 20:30, 22 September 2011 (UTC)
 * That definition would definitely require some quotes:
 * AFAIK, the words refer to a specific goal in a specific game, not any goal made in a similar way.
 * There was no handball involved. The word "hand" refers to the invisible hand of God. Maradona pushed the goal with his head.
 * --Hekaheka 02:47, 25 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep: and hasn't "Hand of God" been used for a number of other fateful or fortuitous events, to the point that there could be a second definition vis-a-vis any fateful or fortuitous event? Purplebackpack89  (Notes Taken) (Locker) 02:02, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * You are probably right, just provide the citations that prove your point! If you are right, Maradona's famous statement becomes just one example of usage. I proposed deletion because I believe the current definition is wrong or at least not properly cited. There's no proof that Maradona's famous goal would ever have been referred to as Hand of God but rather as Hand of God goal, which we luckily do not have. --Hekaheka 06:07, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Deleted. — Ungoliant (Falai) 19:22, 12 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Chambers 1908 has this phrase, defined as "a term used for unforeseen unpreventable accidents, as lightning, tempest, etc." (what we still call act of God in modern insurance policies etc.). Equinox ◑ 00:01, 6 July 2019 (UTC)