Talk:Hottentotte

Is this word offensive now? And does this really apply to any person belonging to the container grouping Khoisan (definition) or only to a person from Khoekhoe people (as the English and Dutch words do)? Accurate labelling is probably a high priority, because it's not inconceivable that some reader might use this in Namibia. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  14:29, 5 December 2020 (UTC)


 * I've changed the def from Khoi-San to Khoekhoe: looser usage wouldn't surprise me at all (and I even spotted an example or two in Afrikaans, when I checked just now), but the primary sense and that given by other references which bother to give any definition more specific than 'an African people' is for the same people as in Dutch and English. Regarding labelling, neither de.Wikt nor the DWDS nor the Duden label the basic sense as offensive; Wikipedia says it was from the start "hauptsächlich abwertend rassistisch und diskriminierend verwendet" (at least in Dutch) but I haven't spotted any other reference which would support a label (beyond dated), and I barely encounter the word so it's hard to be sure. "wie bei den Hottentotten" is derogatory, of course. - -sche (discuss) 19:16, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Yes, "dated" is appropriate, the word is hardly used now, or used in quotes with contextualization. – Jberkel 20:08, 5 December 2020 (UTC)