Talk:I need Internet access

If anyone wants to use this phrase, or translate it into a foreign language, they will not be able to access Wiktionary. We are on the Internet, and they do not have access. SemperBlotto (talk) 12:37, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note, since December 2012, the existence of I need .... Mglovesfun (talk) 12:42, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
 * An intriguing argument. Delete. Ƿidsiþ 12:46, 29 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Not a good deletion rationale. Somebody could still use the information, e.g. giving it to someone as a print-out or over the telephone, or memorising it for later. See Talk:I'm mute for a similar case. Equinox ◑ 13:13, 29 March 2013 (UTC) Thus Keep as long as we have a phrasebook; I still dislike the phrasebook being in mainspace. Equinox ◑ 00:31, 1 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Exactly. Or I may book a hotel room (from my home computer or over the phone) and want to add a phrase "I need Internet access" (about my future hotel room). --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 11:04, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 * All the same delete. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:31, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Move to WikiPhrasebook. DCDuring TALK 13:34, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 * It's already in the Phrasebook. —Angr 14:01, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination. — Ungoliant (Falai) 16:52, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep; you could be using an expensive phone connection, or have a downloaded version, either in toto, useful summarized form, or temporary cache.--Prosfilaes (talk) 21:21, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Is Internet access one of the things needed for survival? I think not. delete or prove the opposite. -- Liliana • 21:29, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Since when is that a criterion? Would you delete everything in Category:English phrasebook/Needs except I need food, I need shelter, and I need water? —Angr 13:15, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Which would make for a pretty crappy phrasebook. I can't find the one's I own, but there was a lot of non-survival items in them, and I'm sure any modern one would have have "I need Internet access".--Prosfilaes (talk) 00:27, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete. I need ... already covers this. 00:31, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
 * ...and all other "I need" -entries for that matter. I have a constructive idea: let's delete all other "I need" -entries and write a whole bunch of examples under I need .... How's that? --Hekaheka (talk) 08:17, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Only for languages where "I need" can simply be attached to "Internet access" without conjugation. If it is actually being used as a phrase book, just the fact that Internet access does not exist would significantly complicate the forming of the phrase; putting Internet in the proper attributive form may be a challenge in and of itself.--Prosfilaes (talk) 09:46, 1 April 2013 (UTC)


 * There's too much opposition to "I need ..." entries and I agree that many of them are repetitive, even if the phrases themselves are very important for communication. I would move to "delete" if someone makes a good appendix, summarises translations from all "I need" pages (I have already tried to do it in I need .... Inflection is a bit of a problem, so some full examples are desirable but not a huge deal. What about a translation only entry for "Internet access" using ? In my Russian translations of I need ... I gave "мне нужен ..." (masculine object), "мне нужна ..." (feminine object), "мне нужно ..." (neuter object)., "мне нужны ..." (plural objects). Other languages can be done similarly where the sentence form may be different dependent on the object of the needs. --Anatoli (обсудить/вклад) 23:47, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep. @Codecat: I need ... is utterly useless as it isn't possible to derive accurate translations from it. @Liliana: How is internet access not being necessary for survival relevant at all? --Yair rand (talk) 03:49, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep.Matthias Buchmeier (talk) 19:25, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Still waiting for the theoretical entry that Matthias wants to delete. I am older than my own age? Equinox ◑ 20:15, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep per Equinox ("Not a good deletion rationale. ..."), and Yair rand ("How is internet access not being necessary for survival relevant at all?"). --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:29, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

Note that this entry was included in a mass nomination, (soon to be archived) which was closed as delete. -- Liliana • 12:38, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

RFD discussion: December 2012–April 2013

 * See Talk:I need a map.