Talk:Indian nigger

RFD discussion: August–October 2022
"A person from the Indian subcontinent." But it only means dark-skinned people, not e.g. Anglo-Indians. And "nigger" has the sense of a dark-skinned person. So this is an unnecessary sum-of-parts entry. Equinox ◑ 23:54, 6 August 2022 (UTC)


 * I guess this comes down to whether Indian nigger is also used to designate people that are Indian but not dark-skinned. Based on the current citations, it seems to me as though it is used synonymously with Indian (which would make it non-SOP); the 1999 quotation juxtaposes the term with Pakistanis which implies to me that it was also intended to designate nationality. The 2004 citation can go either way (leaning more towards nationality personally), the 2005 one reads more like a statement about citizens of India again and the 2006 one reads as though it is more closely related to skin color. Perhaps it can also just be kept as a fried egg, because a naive reading of the term may make one think of Indians of black African descent. Abstain for now but pinging who always provides good and objective insights into quotes no matter how objectionable. &mdash; Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 19:09, 9 August 2022 (UTC)


 * I suspect a person who'd say "Indian niggers" in the first place (racist), especially one making as many misspellings as the 1999 poster (dumb), may not care or know there are technically Indians who have light skin, they may just be thinking of them as a mass of not-white (often dark-skinned) people. (This touches on the issue I raised in the Tea Room about slurring an ethnic Sorb from Germany as a Kraut: it's not that it isn't an ethnic slur for "German", it's that people who use slurs are not always concerned about precision.) If it's not meant as a reference to skin colour, then it's using nigger as a general slur (sense 4), right? Like in potato nigger and glownigger. I suppose we have potato nigger because deriving "Irish person" from "potato"+"[slur]" is not obvious, and of course the meaning of glownigger is not obvious from the parts. But I think Indian nigger is SOP, because you can construct such phrases using different nationalities (,, ...) or different slurs (, ...), and the meaning is just the specified nationality. Re the "fried egg" test, I don't think it means the test, because it's not restricted to any one meaning: we're discussing two meanings, and finds others (slurring Native American Indians with or without Black ancestry, slurring people from the West or East Indies, ...), and I see no reason to think it wouldn't also be used of India's Black citizens if there were more of them and racists had more occasion to contrast them with another country's. - -sche (discuss) 04:59, 10 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per sche. I think that at this rate, with the amount of entries there are related to that word, it's considered productive. AG202 (talk) 18:05, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. -sche's comparison to "Irish niggers" and "Russian niggers" (that I didn't know existed) is compelling to me; + nigger seems to be productive. &mdash; Fytcha〈 T | L | C 〉 12:55, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete as SOP. Overlordnat1 (talk) 10:07, 15 September 2022 (UTC)


 * Deleted. - TheDaveRoss  14:20, 27 October 2022 (UTC)