Talk:Marmite

Quotations
Quotations which turned up on RFV:
 * 1917: Robert Hutchison, Food and the principles of dietetics, page 98
 * Recently, extracts prepared from yeast have been introduced as substitutes for ordinary meat extracts. A good example of these is the preparation known as Marmite, which has the following composition [...]
 * 1919 (?): Lawrence J. Weidmann, The Battle of Bourges, page 92
 * Two girls were on the night stretch and three on each of the others, one making sandwiches, one acting as cashier, and the third, called the marmite girl, [...]
 * 1940: the Indian Council of Medical Research, The Indian Journal of Medical Research, pages 377–378
 * In this group there were 3 cases which showed only extensive scrotal involvement that cleared up completely after Marmite was given for 3 weeks. [... In another case,] the dose of Marmite was not doubled as was done in the other cases, where the desired result was not obtained.
 * 1963: Donald Stewart McLaren, Malnutrition and the eye, page 261
 * Calcium, phosphorus, and nicotinic acid were not of value but Marmite gave slight improvement in all cases who received it.
 * 1997, Bessie Head, Maru, page 81 or 87
 * Moleka's kisses taste like Marmite sandwiches. Moleka's kisses taste like roast beef with spicy gravy.
 * 2007, Annette Laing, Don't Know Where, Don't Know When, Confusion Press, page 28
 * Brandon, hungry, decided he would prefer something savory, and was offered a choice of sardines on toast or Marmite sandwich. [...] Brandon didn't know what a Marmite sandwich might be, but it sounded better than crunchy eyeball fish, [...]
 * 2008: Elizabeth Hartley Winthrop, December, page 197
 * "Do you like Marmite, Belle?" Isabelle pauses to inspect the brown stuff now on her knife. She has never had Marmite before, and it smells terrible [...]
 * NB, find examples of 'Marmite kiss[es]' in usenet. — Beobach972 19:39, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * NB, find examples of 'Marmite kiss[es]' in usenet. — Beobach972 19:39, 1 July 2009 (UTC)

— Beobach972 07:08, 13 November 2010 (UTC)

Marmite
This should be attestable in attributive use. DCDuring TALK 13:53, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
 * A look on Google books suggests that marmite (ie, minuscule) can also be used to mean the yeast spread. Does that seem right? — Beobach972 02:18, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * It doesn't surprise me. But I am fairly sure that the upper-case brand name preceded the lower case for the yeast stuff. The brand name is apparently derived from the container it was sold in which resembled the French . If "Marmite" can't be cited in attributive use, we can still have the lower-case entry and include the brand name in the etymology. DCDuring TALK 02:54, 27 June 2009 (UTC)


 * There seems to be a medically-useful substance called Marmite, but I'm not sure whether it's the yeast spread or not. It seems to be. Take a look:
 * 1940: the Indian Council of Medical Research, The Indian Journal of Medical Research, pages 377–378
 * In this group there were 3 cases which showed only extensive scrotal involvement that cleared up completely after Marmite was given for 3 weeks. [... In another case,] the dose of Marmite was not doubled as was done in the other cases, where the desired result was not obtained.
 * 1963: Donald Stewart McLaren, Malnutrition and the eye, page 261
 * Calcium, phosphorus, and nicotinic acid were not of value but Marmite gave slight improvement in all cases who received it.
 * (The 1963 one is also an interesting use of 'who'.) — Beobach972 15:22, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


 * 1917: Robert Hutchison, Food and the principles of dietetics, page 98
 * Recently, extracts prepared from yeast have been introduced as substitutes for ordinary meat extracts. A good example of these is the preparation known as Marmite, which has the following composition [...]
 * 1997, Bessie Head, Maru, page 81 or 87
 * Moleka's kisses taste like Marmite sandwiches. Moleka's kisses taste like roast beef with spicy gravy.
 * 2008: Elizabeth Hartley Winthrop, December, page 197
 * "Do you like Marmite, Belle?" Isabelle pauses to inspect the brown stuff now on her knife. She has never had Marmite before, and it smells terrible [...]
 * — Beobach972 15:39, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


 * I think only the "Marmite sandwich" case fits the attributive use criterion, but I'm not sure. The broad sense of attributive might include this:
 * &mdash;DCDuring 16:06, 1 July 2009
 * &mdash;DCDuring 16:06, 1 July 2009

This is lowercase, but I thought I'd put it here for now. — Beobach972 19:30, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
 * 1919 (?): Lawrence J. Weidmann, The Battle of Bourges, page 92
 * Two girls were on the night stretch and three on each of the others, one making sandwiches, one acting as cashier, and the third, called the marmite girl, [...]


 * Here's another example of 'Marmite sandwiches', referred to both with article and without:
 * 2007, Annette Laing, Don't Know Where, Don't Know When, Confusion Press, page 28
 * Brandon, hungry, decided he would prefer something savory, and was offered a choice of sardines on toast or Marmite sandwich. [...] Brandon didn't know what a Marmite sandwich might be, but it sounded better than crunchy eyeball fish, [...]
 * Also, I'm sure someone could find examples of 'Marmite kiss[es]' in usenet. — Beobach972 19:39, 1 July 2009 (UTC)


 * We should try to attest the common noun, too ("something which people either love or hate" &mdash; from a TV ad campaign hinging on this aspect of Marmite). The current single citation is useless for this purpose. Equinox ◑ 01:08, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
 * I don't understand why the 2009 citation is useless, but nevertheless I've added another four citations (all for "the marmite of"), which I think should verify this. Thryduulf (talk) 01:43, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Struck. RFV-passed? NB I copied the rejected quotations to the talk page. — Beobach972 07:03, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
 * RFV-passed on the strength of the citations. — Beobach 03:48, 18 November 2010 (UTC)