Talk:New York, New York

New York, New York
Pointless, like having an entry for Toronto, Ontario or Sydney, Australia. --Yair rand 06:41, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Such entries should be kept only when they can be considered as words (which is probably the case for Washington, D.C.). Lmaltier 06:59, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete, overly encyclopedic and/or bad entry title. Mglovesfun (talk) 07:15, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Move to RfV to see whether it meets CFI. DCDuring TALK * Holiday Greetings! 11:17, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep if its special sense can be demonstrated - isn't it from the song of the same name?. Maybe for some Americans it's used in a certain way. Tooironic 19:28, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Not seeing a special sense in the entry. What did you have in mind? The only meaning I know is the one we have: the city of New York in the state of New York, like Toronto, Ontario. (Note fwiw that the city is actually named New York (in some places given as the City of New York, but, then many cities have such longer names, like the City of University City), not New York City, which is merely what (some) people call it to distinguish it from the state.) &#x200b;— msh210 ℠ 17:09, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Isn't it used more as an interjection, with the implicature of "well, that's New York for you!"? I might just be grasping at straws here though... maybe a native New Yorker can clarify.Tooironic 04:52, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * I've never heard it that way. (I come from New York City.) I can't think of a good way to search for such a sense, but a bad way,, yields no hits in that sense. Even if it is attested, I think it may very well be just the Proper noun (place name), used in an exclamatory manner, rather than really an interjection, assuming it's used the way you, Tooironic, suggest. &#x200b;— msh210 ℠ 19:05, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
 * Besides our definition of New York, New York as New York City entire, there's the United States Postal Service's definition of New York, NY as the areas with 100xx, 101xx, and 102xx ZIP codes, viz roughly Manhattan, including, for example, Roosevelt Island, but excluding, for example, Marble Hill: both of those are in the borough of Manhattan but not on Manhattan Island. I do not think we should have that sense anywhere, though if we start allowing all sorts of place names, then inclusibility of such a sense would follow, I suppose. &#x200b;— msh210 ℠ 19:05, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

Delete It's just a specific place name, and doesn't meet WT:NAME. —Michael Z. 2010-03-25 19:00 z 

Deleted. &#x200b;—msh210℠ 20:09, 15 June 2010 (UTC)