Talk:Ottoman Empire

I am missing the most important thing.

Would be nice to know, why they call it Ottoman empire and NOT Osman Empire. Germans call it OSMANisches Reich from the leader Osman the first.


 * It's just a different transliteration. The personal name in Arabic is  (‘uthmān), which in Latin became Ottomanus, whence the English.  But the same Arabic name is also transliterated as Osman, Uzman and several other variants, which have provided names in other languages as well as in older forms of English.  Widsith 00:38, 15 December 2007 (UTC)


 * By the way, the German ottomanisch also exists. Widsith 00:45, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

RFV discussion
See WT:CFI. Is this a toponym? How should it be defined? How does one know when the definition is attested? DCDuring TALK 16:12, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
 * Does it matter? I don't see any difference to Roman Empire, Soviet Union or any name of state for that matter. The borders tend to vary over time. --Hekaheka 09:25, 17 May 2010 (UTC)


 * Clearly widespread use. —Ruakh TALK 02:34, 3 November 2010 (UTC)


 * Indeed, clearly widespread use &mdash; I've provided some quotations &mdash; though this seems to be less a question of attestation and more a question of CFI. — Beobach 20:56, 20 November 2010 (UTC)

Striking, specific entities does not require specific type of citations. DAVilla 07:33, 9 December 2010 (UTC)