Talk:Oudorte

RFV discussion: January–May 2023
French. Can't find anything except the reference, but I don't trust that database and it isn't a CFI-approved source anyway. Btw, I don't like the definition as "A toponym", because 1. that's very vague (what kind of place is this? a hill? a village? a castle?), 2. it should be italicized as it's a non-gloss definition. (That also applies to many other "toponym" entries recently created by the same user, seemingly in assembly-line fashion, taken from the same database.) 70.172.194.25 10:45, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Should just be deleted, even if there were 3 uses (I can't find any) it clearly isn't one of the categories of place names allowed by WT:CFI. It is not the nearby hamlet on the satellite map, which is called Col de Lamothe; as far as I can tell from the label it's just the name of a clearing or field. —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 17:24, 1 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Seems like the same applies to lots of other entries made by the same user: Brapasson is similarly a small clearing near the hamlet of Gaouats; Hajau, Tucau, Caomil all seem to be parts of woods, link to non-existent wiki articles and look to be otherwise unattested for the relevant sense; Curadil is a small field; Hiestres is another random clearing in a wood... —Al-Muqanna المقنع (talk) 17:47, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I went through the last 24 such "toponym" pages created by this user and it's not an exaggeration to say that about half of them (11) seem to have almost no evidence of existence on Google Books or even the World Wide Web in general. The rest of them are somewhat attestable on GB and/or WWW, but even then it's not clear that they are covered by CFI (either due to the type of place, or the quality of the attestations). My methodology was to search for e.g. ["Oudorte" "Garonne"] on Google, and then on Google Books, and if I didn't find a single shred of convincing evidence I kept the tab open. Here are the ones for which I couldn't find anything whatsoever:
 * Oudorte
 * Tumares
 * Tuetch
 * Sarreclare
 * Ourtech
 * Arrominguerasse
 * Lane Daudon
 * Yerle D'Ays
 * Soumestrés
 * Fesons
 * Touteillac
 * Let's not turn Wiktionary into another online database of dubious quality. There are plenty of those already. 70.172.194.25 17:51, 1 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I think they might be reading this discussion, because the ones they are creating so far today seem to have non-zero Google hits by the test I mentioned above, but some of them still aren't very convincing at all, e.g. Barayrat, where it seems most of the Google hits are from sites that use this toponym database to automatically generate page content (and nothing on Google Books). I don't look forward to having to manually investigate each one of these to see if it's worth salvaging. 70.172.194.25 09:01, 2 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Perhaps the French Wiktionary would want these (they seem to have a lower threshold for inclusion). - -sche (discuss) 13:31, 3 January 2023 (UTC)


 * RFV failed for Oudorte. An admin may want to remove the others.  Vox Sciurorum (talk) 13:36, 31 May 2023 (UTC)