Talk:Pangudang

RFV discussion: May–June 2021
414 Google hits total. Excluding ones directly from Wiktionary, virtually all are from various Indonesian languages (in particular, pangudang seems to be some kind of literary thing in Javanese). And in general, highly skeptical that this qualifies as an English word.--Tibidibi (talk) 11:01, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
 * Clearly the page should be deleted as the current rules stand (unless someone finds some cites of course). This following is a Wiktionary policy-change argument, not an argument within the rules as they stand (as I understand them).
 * (1) I did not create the Pangudang page (or similar pages like Dingsidang, Sujiadang etc.- see beginning from 19 June 2018) but (2) I do support the Pangudang entry's continued existence on the basis that (3) if the Pangudang page is deleted, there will be a redlink on the  page and (4) the word '' in Chinese characters is clearly likely to be a citable term  etc. My theory is that as long as the non-English term  has three durably archived citations, then it's fine for Wiktionary to tell the reader about the English language word that matches up to it, even if that English language term is not citable in the traditional three cites sense.  --Geographyinitiative (talk) 13:31, 4 May 2021 (UTC) (modified)

RFV-failed Kiwima (talk) 22:11, 4 June 2021 (UTC)


 * This is apparently the correct result according to Wiktionary rules, but it seems as if Wiktionary will be missing a great wing of knowledge it could include just because I can't find cites for these words. I do like the way that Kiwima dealt with this situation by changing the word to pure pinyin with tone marks since it is not an attested English language word. --Geographyinitiative (talk) 00:15, 5 June 2021 (UTC)