Talk:Rico Suave

RFD discussion
I'd like to know why my entry was deleted as "vandalism", when it included a reputable source, with the definition I used, and it is a commonly known slang term in North America. -- 70.24.250.26 07:15, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Back, but will need to pass WT:RFV. I guess you're a Wikipedia editor? Your reference isn't really a reference but a citation of the term. Debatably it doesn't even use the term in question so it's useless. Please reply at WT:RFV to avoid cutting the discussion in two. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:02, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

RFV
US slang: "a snappily dressed cool confidant Latino ladies man". It has a reference, which is actually a citation, and probably not a valid one. A quick Google Book search doesn't find this, but references either to Rico Suave the person or Rico Suave the song. I'm wondering if the source article is just wrong. If it's recent US slang I'd expect Usenet hits at the very least. Mglovesfun (talk) 10:58, 21 November 2012 (UTC) I haven't burrowed through all your references, but most of them don't work. Most of your cites either a) don't support the definition you gave, b) don't meet the requirements in WT:CFI, or c) don't actually cite this exact spelling. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 18:56, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I could only find it as a song title - that's why I speedied it. SemperBlotto (talk) 11:03, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * Actually it wasn't you! It was Metaknowledge, presumably he got there a few microseconds before you did. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:11, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * And I just speedied it again. Most definitely vandalism, I reverted the same person doing the same thing over at WIkipedia. Just because some vandals are slightly smarter than others doesn't mean that we should let their crap sit for a month. I'll be surprised if you find a single usable cite. By the way, Semper, do you just automatically assume that any speedying is done by you? Actually, if so you're probably more often right than wrong :) —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 15:07, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * You should get an error message if you try and delete a page that doesn't exist. Mglovesfun (talk) 18:20, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't think you know what vandalism is if you think that "Rico Suave" is vandalism. Clearly you didn't read the reference, which gives the same definition as provided in the entry. The phrase "Rico Suave" has a number of origins, being slang in the US for a cool, confident Latino and ladies' man who dresses sharply clearly a reasonable dead tree source "The Australian". Clearly the term was defined, so how is that vandalism? -- 70.24.250.26 06:22, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
 * 1) http://www.tmz.com/2008/07/18/cristiano-ronaldo-rico-suave/ Cristiano Ronaldo -- Rico Suave This uses "Rico Suave" as in the definition in the deleted entry.
 * 2) On the subject of Rico Suave-types, be warned: They check out more parts here than an auto shop Los Angeles Times, 17 June 1993
 * 3) Desjardins had been given the nickname "Rico" in Montreal because of the way he dressed and handled himself. He was like that mythical Latin character, Rico Suave Philadelphia Inquirer, 28 December 2003
 * 4) Alex wasn’t always met with open arms when he made it out to the 2nd level. “Rico Suave baby,” Boone said, shaking his head. Hawkeye Insider, 11 January 2005
 * 5) http://www.tv.com/shows/csi-miami/forums/i-hate-jonathan-togo-ryan-wolfe-5154-513278/ He even asked her out (made a bit of a mess of it but the guy ain't Eric "Rico Suave" Delko so whatever).
 * 6) http://reviews.cnet.com/pc-games/leisure-suit-larry-s/4505-9696_7-30983749.html Those who want to be richer and smoother than Rico Suave will definitely find the style of play satisfying.
 * 7) http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/21-jump-street-now/story?id=15928964#.UK3BrU3A8lU For the cast of the original Fox TV series, (like Rico Suave, er, Richard Grieco ) it was a chance to launch careers ...
 * 8) In real life, Mitt's rico-suave Eastern governor, who happens to be a card- carrying member of a peculiar religion based somewhere out West Salt Lake Tribune, 10 February 2008
 * 9) http://www.nypost.com/entertainment/movies/news/n86762.htm By banding together with a quirky team of characters (including Ansari playing a Rico Suave-esque slug) New York Post
 * 10) We live together; we don't want to see each other twenty-four hours a day,” Logan said. “Hey, Lopez, Syd has her eye on you; better look out, Rico Suave.” Nick laughed at the Rico Suave reference to Lopez. “I think Rico here feels the same.  Matthew R. Zende, "Real Family: A Journey of 5 Friends Discovering Their Identities and the True Meaning of Family"
 * 11) I immediately nicknamed him Rico Suave in my head.  Stefanie Wilder-Taylor, "I'm Kind of a Big Deal: And Other Delusions of Adequacy"
 * 12) We call him Rico Suave - he's pretty smooth with the women. Maggie Shayne, "Killing Me Softly"
 * 13) Hell naw my name ain't no damn Rico Suave  Kaiserrific, "Derrty Lil' Sex Secretz: Based on True Events"
 * 14) "Seriously, Freckles, you're dressed to the nines and I could give Rico Suave a run for the money in my getup," he explained.  Melissa McClone, "It Started with a Crush... & Win, Lose...or Wed"
 * 15) Just about the time I was really getting my groove on - Nice move, Rico Suave! - I stepped on Kay's foot and bumped into the poor guy behind me who was as lost as I was.  "How We Love: Discover Your Love Style, Enhance Your Marriage"
 * Seriously, you wave vandalism around waaay too loosely. -- 70.24.250.26 06:22, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
 * The definition I gave I extracted from the Australian newspaper, so I don't see how that qualifies as vandalism (dead tree source provides a definition, so where is the vandalism?). Most of the sources I subsequently use the term, so don't give definitions.
 * Nice move, Rico Suave! ISBN 9781459227415 -- self referential, comparing the speaker's lack of grace to Rico Suave's putative grace
 * better look out, Rico Suave.” Nick laughed at the Rico Suave reference to Lopez. ISBN 9781425976811 ; the character "Lopez" is referred to as a Rico Suave, using the term as defined in the Australian newspaper
 * We call him Rico Suave - he's pretty smooth with the women. ISBN 978-0778327936 ; the character is referred to as a Rico Suave, for the reason of fitting the definition as defined in the Australian newspaper
 * Hell naw my name ain't no damn Rico Suave ISBN 9781478235859 ; the character is denying he is a Rico Suave (as defined by the Australian newspaper) as his name is Rico, not his nickname.
 * "Seriously, Freckles, you're dressed to the nines and I could give Rico Suave a run for the money in my getup," he explained. ISBN 9781459227415 ; character is comparing himself to a Rico Suave.
 * In real life, Mitt's rico-suave Eastern governor this dead-tree newspaper reformulated the noun in adjective form. It compares an early image of Mitt Romeny as a Rico Suave-esque character to real life.
 * richer and smoother than Rico Suave that uses the term just as defined in the Australian newspaper
 * like Rico Suave, er, Richard Grieco comparative of the actor Richard Grieco to the stereotype Rico Suave
 * (These are my analyses of the sources previously given)
 * Similar terms already on wiktionary are Don Juan, Casanova, Einstein, etc -- 70.24.250.26 05:53, 23 November 2012 (UTC)


 * 1)  From being Rico Suave I was now a dog-the Taco Bell chihuahua. 
 * Philadelphia Daily Inquirer, "Transmission Errors". Gino de la Paz, 6 September 2003, pp.H1
 * My analysis: The narrator is referring to himself as someone considered a Rico Suave to being a dog (another slang term) after a personal failure
 * 1)  Now Midler gets to discuss the allegations made by the Rico Suave of tabloid television during the first Barbara Walters special of the season 
 * Austin American-Statesman, "Midler may slam Geraldo", 12 October 1991, pp.3
 * My analysis: The columnist is referring to reporter Geraldo Rivera as a Rico Suave
 * 1)  Durrel's the Rico Suave-type; women are the only thing on this guy's mind. But he's all flash, with no cash and no car. 
 * Lawrence Journal-World, "Phat Beach" fits fun-loving movie mold, Mike Floyd, 12 August 1996, pp.12D
 * 1)  Iglesias says with a laugh. "I'm not a Rico Suave type of guy. Women will ask 'Really? Are you serious?' 
 * Conexión, "Split your side ; Iglesias' hunger for success is paying off", Rudy Arispe, 10 February 2005
 * 1)  The polished, poised, fashionable husband Katina sees now -- the one she teasingly calls "Rico Suave" and who cops to being a metrosexual (not that there's anything wrong with that) -- bears little resemblance to the diffident guy she fell for. 
 * Sports Illustrated, "Blitzing Hollywood", Michael Silver, 19 June 2007
 * The person being called Rico Suave is actually Jason Taylor (American football)
 * 1)  Uh, excuse you, sister dear, but we all know that, I, Rico Suave, need no invitation. Nothing is sacred to these ears. 
 * , Dwayne S. Joseph, "Growing Pains", 2011-03-01, ISBN 9781601622464
 * This character's name is Richard Rose
 * 1) I think 'Rico-suave' type, dark skin, dark hair, smokey eyes, and somewhat of a man of mystery. But he also knows every move in the book. (Kelly)
 * Pablo G. Castañeda R., "Latin Lovers: Do We Really Exist? All from My Heart", 2005, pp.2, ISBN 9781412050807
 * 1) He tried to turn on the Rico Suave charm
 * "The King of Erotica 2: The Crown", 2008, ISBN 9780615153087
 * 1) He thinks he is Rico Suave and you know him to be a Don Juan.
 * Michelle Dupress, "Attract the Love You Want", 2010, pp.10, ISBN 9781609116446
 * 1) The show follows Lawrence Jameson, a regular Rico Suave, and Freddy Benson, a small-time swindler who tugs at ladies' heart
 * Indianapolis Monthly, "Show Stealers" December 2007, pp.194, ISSN 0899-0328
 * 1) That Rico Suave-ass nigga don't know how to keep a bitch like Miamor
 * Asley & JaQuavis, "The Tale of Murda Mamas: The Cartel 2", 2009, ISBN 9781601622563
 * 1) If you've been invited to a friend's birthday, and you show up only to find three couples, two stragglers, and Rico Suave hitting on the hot waitress, lower your expectations of meeting someone, and try to have a great time anyway.
 * Reba Toney, "The Rating Game: The Foolproof Formula for Finding Your Perfect Soul Mate", 2009, pp.181 ISBN 9780312383985
 * -- 70.24.250.26 09:44, 26 November 2012 (UTC)

Striking as verified; I have added a few of these citations to the entry, and found a few others that also fit the bill. bd2412 T 23:23, 18 June 2013 (UTC)