Talk:Spectator

RFV discussion
as in "the oldest continually published magazine in the English language". Is there an attributive use of this specific magazine? --Bequw → ¢ • τ 12:18, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Does this sort of thing count? "the meaning of the capital letters at the end of each Spectator issue", "he is a regular Spectator columnist". If so, we could easily include many far less notable publications. Equinox ◑ 12:27, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I think we would question their "independence". DCDuring TALK 15:10, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Cited in attributive use, IMO. DCDuring TALK 15:10, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The cites given are "...Spectator contributor...", "...Spectator essay...", and "...Spectator piece...". Consider the city of Mukilteo, which WP says had 18,019 people in 2000. Google News and News Archive bring up loads and loads of cites for "Mukilteo man" and "Mukilteo business". Consider the even smaller Arcadia, which according to WP had 391 (yes, three hundred ninety-one) residents in 2000. A durably archived citation in attributive use is then "The other two members serving on on the Arcadia board were Patty Peterson and Mary V. Shead.". I'm holding out for two more.... No: Seriously, the CFI say "A name should be included if it is used attributively, with a widely understood meaning. For example: New York is included because "New York" is used attributively in phrases like "New York delicatessen", to describe a particular sort of delicatessen." (emphasis removed). This does not include terms like Mukilteo, Arcadia (Kansas), or Spectator (with the cites given).—msh210 ℠  21:29, 1 May 2009 (UTC)


 * I'm having trouble squaring this with the gutting of standards in the case of Rostov-na-Donu vs. WT:CFI. WT:CFI seems a dead letter with regard to Proper nouns and, indeed, any multi-part word whose components are polysemic or technical. We don't need votes if we an be so, um, flexible with regard to interpretation. DCDuring TALK 23:22, 1 May 2009 (UTC)

RFV failed per msh210. Sorry, DCDuring. —Ruakh TALK 01:25, 21 November 2009 (UTC)