Talk:Warsaw Treaty Organization

RFD discussion: June–October 2022
Not dictionary material. —Svārtava (talk) • 04:23, 20 June 2022 (UTC)


 * No need to nominate these at this point due to the vote. ·~   dictátor · mundꟾ  08:23, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Sorry, which vote? Attestation criteria for derogatory terms? --Lambiam 10:17, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Votes/2022-06/Updating CFI for names of organizations (note that “Vote starts:” has been changed to “at an indefinite time”). J3133 (talk) 10:25, 21 June 2022 (UTC)


 * Delete as an organizational name and thus encyclopedic. But I would definitely keep, which is much more lexicalized. Imetsia (talk) 20:04, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
 * Wiktionary does not support the notion that all names of organizations are encyclopedic. The rationale is therefore invalid. Even the mentioned Warsaw Pact refutes the rationale given; Greenpeace, Ku Klux Klan are more examples. --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:17, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Wiktionary doesn't have opinions, it is a website. The editors of Wiktionary do have opinions, and you don't get to decide which ones are valid. - TheDaveRoss  12:34, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * I said nothing of "opinions". Wiktionary editors decided to keep Talk:Greenpeace and Talk:Ku Klux Klan. By doing so, they rejected the putative policy that "all organization names are encyclopedic and to be excluded". Furthermore, Wiktionary widely supports organization names that are initialisms. Thus, "as an organizational name" is not a sufficient reason for deletion; there must be some other distinguishing criterion, but none was stated. The nomination "Not dictionary material" is empty as for distinguishing criteria. This whole RFD is a glaring violation of W:Wikipedia:Arguments to avoid in deletion discussions, which is a Wikipedia essay about how discussions should be lead based on strength of arguments. We have no such essay, AFAIK. --Dan Polansky (talk) 12:48, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Everything you said there is wrong or inapplicable. - TheDaveRoss  14:19, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete. - -sche (discuss) 09:19, 5 July 2022 (UTC)


 * Deleted. - -sche (discuss) 19:21, 1 September 2022 (UTC)


 * This discussion shows no differentiated reasoning. We need to perform better than this. Important international organizations should be included if we want to approach anything like what we do for countries, including United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland and United Arab Emirates. And important international organizations are as significant referents as states. Other examples can be found in Category:en:Organizations, e.g. World Bank, World Health Organization and European Central Bank (passed RFD). The lemming case is not very strong: it is in Collins and Dictionary.com. --Dan Polansky (talk) 11:17, 15 September 2022 (UTC)