Talk:aandeg

Prenoun
aandego- (lexical) aandego= (vowel root) aandegw= (consonant root)

Transformations

 * aandeg= (unaffected)
 * ayaandeg= (initial change)
 * aayaandeg= (reduplication)

RFC discussion: December 2010–July 2015

 * this had been a 2007 entry which still needed attention

— Beobach 08:36, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Has been cleaned. - -sche (discuss) 17:20, 3 July 2015 (UTC)

RFC discussion: March 2014
Was tagged but not listed. Needs some serious reorganising... 23:49, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Wow. Polysynthetic languages are complicated enough without including declensions for all the derived terms. It looks like aandegobag,aandegopin,aandegoshkwenh and aandego-giizis should all be separate lemmas . After that, it looks like it would be consistent with the other Ojibwe animate noun entries. The comment on the cleanup tag is another matter: the language would benefit from declension templates, but that's not specific to this entry. Chuck Entz (talk) 00:33, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I created the new entries and trimmed the tagged entry. It turns out that aandegoshkwenh is an Ottawa form, which we treat as a separate language. I suspect there are more such surprises waiting among the Ojibwe entries. Not that I'm complaining- we're lucky to have this information at all. Chuck Entz (talk) 01:48, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I mocked up a crude declension table (my wikitable skills are pretty poor). I don't know the language well enough to do much more (I suspect we should remove aandegoshkwenh from the synonyms, since it's Ottawa, rather than Ojibwe proper, but I don't know for sure). Chuck Entz (talk) 02:27, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * I think the "prenoun" forms are really just combining forms, and they might as well go in the table too as they are part of the word's inflection. 02:33, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
 * Perhaps. It would help to know when and why each of them is used. After looking through Ojibwe grammar, it would appear that the forms given are just the tip of the iceberg. There are also vocative, contemptive (milder than pejorative), preterit (dead/no longer existing) and preterit-dubitative (dead/no longer existing, and not personally known by the speaker). In addition, there are affixes that indicate if the noun was possessed, and by whom (person & number). With all the possible combinations, I can understand why one might take the shortcut of giving selected forms only. This is the kind of thing you run into quite often among the American Indian languages. Chuck Entz (talk) 04:11, 3 March 2014 (UTC)