Talk:ada udang di balik batu


 * Could somebody add a durable quotation (newspaper, professionally published book, parliamentary proceeding) to the entry? And is the definition correct? One dictionary suggests the meaning is closer to "there is a catch". ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  18:40, 31 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Quotation added. The proverb also translated to 'there is no such thing as a free lunch'. Actually the proverb itself refer to 'the intention' not the doer. Maybe the closest translation is 'ulterior motive'. There is catch? I'm not familiar with the idiom. ―Rex Aurōrum｢Disputātiō｣ 20:45, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
 * : The relevant definition is current # 9 of . Usually it refers to intentional hurdles, tricks or known but deliberately hidden defects. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  18:44, 1 September 2021 (UTC)
 * Hmm. Maybe the definition can be changed to 'a concealed ulterior motive, especially in a generous offer or deal'. The proverb usually used when someone do something or give something to someone else, then the receiver have suspicion. So it refers to hidden intention not hidden defect. I added the translation of quotation, maybe you modify to more natural. ―Rex Aurōrum｢Disputātiō｣ 00:42, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * I'll have another look, but I actually think it's good as is. Thank you very much. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  17:16, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
 * However, I suppose the definition should include "there is" to translate ada? ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  19:22, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
 * : No problem. Yeah. I just checked Online KBBI V, the proverb define as 'there is a hidden purpose' (ada suatu maksud yang tersembunyi). ―Rex Aurōrum｢Disputātiō｣ 23:49, 6 September 2021 (UTC)