Talk:altruïsm

RFV discussion: November 2018
??? DTLHS (talk) 05:37, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * It does seem attestable. Compare Talk:vacuüm. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 05:41, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


 * Category:Netherlands English is making me laugh and cry at the same tïme. Equinox ◑ 05:52, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * In Google Books, I see one direct quote from Ayn Rand in a translated Dutch book, one occurrence in the title of journal article in a footnote (neither the book nor the article are by Dutch authors), and a couple of mentions of the English word in running Dutch text. In Google Scholar, more mentions in Dutch texts, one article in English with maybe a dozen occurrences of altruism/derivatives but only one of altruïsm, one occurrence in a chart, one occurrence in the cited title of a journal article, and some PDFs where the text search finds altruïsm, but altruism is what's actually visible on the page. Google Groups has two hits: one use by someone with a Dutch name, and one thread in Dutch discussing a linked English article where the Dutch text has "Defining altruïsm" in quotes but the article itself has "Defining altruism". Nothing in Google News. I would say there's certainly attestation for a Dutch entry, just barely enough for the English entry, but not enough uses in running English text by Dutch people to justify the English "Netherlands" label. Chuck Entz (talk) 07:46, 25 November 2018 (UTC)


 * I'm more concerned about "Netherlands English" not actually being a thing. Are we lumping casual ELF in with stuff like post-colonial Indian English now? Okay! We can! But we have to take a stand on this rather radical decision and not just allow it to grow like fungus around sneaky additions to a category &mdash; particularly when the category appears to be the result of a single user's diaresis fetishism. Equinox ◑ 08:22, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I think we can and should lump those together, because they aren't really different things. The issue is that it's a whole country where nearly everybody speaks English and is quite used to adding diaereses where they think they belong because of their use in Dutch. —Μετάknowledge discuss/deeds 16:55, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * While it is attestable, that appears to be because it is a common error made by Dutch speakers of English. Can we call it a misspelling? Many other common misspellings are attestable, but we still call them misspellings. Kiwima (talk) 02:57, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I think this can be deleted as a rare misspelling, only used by very clumsy non-native speakers. Only one hit on Google Books is in running text in non-native English. The bare Google hits (around 1,890 results) don't suggest this is a very common variant. ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  07:44, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Deleted as a rare misspellling. Kiwima (talk) 20:00, 27 November 2018 (UTC)