Talk:an toàn đệ nhất

RFV discussion: December 2020–April 2023
Not how you normally say "safety first" in Vietnamese ( is used instead), most google hits are from translations of Chinese novels.PhanAnh123 (talk) 06:12, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
 * @PhanAnh123: Just advice since I saw this. If the term an toàn đệ nhất exists, but is just very uncommon, you can add it as a synonym in the main entry an toàn là trên hết, and label it as rare or uncommon, and put the same label in the other entry. We don't need to delete this entry if it really exists, but is just rare. --Mar vin kaiser (talk) 14:12, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I think Phan Anh is being polite when he says it is not "how you normally say" it. ☺ All instances I could find of this online seem to be automated or community-generated translations of Chinese stories. Nothing durable. Furthermore the people (or machines) who create those translations seem to follow the wuxia convention that anything fancy should not be translated but merely transliterated to the Vietnamese pronunciation. Most of those phrases would never be used outside of works translated from Chinese. MuDavid 栘𩿠 (talk) 03:44, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I do wonder, how should we handle words that are mainly found in translations, particularly awkward or unnatural ones, in general? MSG17 (talk) 02:40, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
 * In my opinion, if such terms made it into three independent durably archived sources, they should be included, as people may encounter them and want to look them up. If they only appear in machine translations posted online (as seems to be the case with ) then I say we should just delete them. MuDavid 栘𩿠 (talk) 07:43, 24 May 2022 (UTC)

Over two years and still no acceptable cites. Failed. MuDavid 栘𩿠 (talk) 03:00, 5 April 2023 (UTC)