Talk:anatomical atlas

An atlas of anatomy. --EncycloPetey 17:53, 22 November 2009 (UTC)

Delete Jamesjiao 09:07, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. Knowing the user in question, he's probably created this just for the unusual plural. But hard to judge if it's SoP without a definition. But usually definitionless words get a speedy delete. Mglovesfun (talk) 11:54, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Actually, I created this (and others) to demonstrate the need for /, not for the plural (however, I don’t entirely criticise as unrealistic your inference, Mglovesfun). At the time, I didn’t have the time to give these terms proper entries, hence the , , , &c. I don’t agree with speedy-deleting definitionless words (that would turn Category:Definitionless words into a  category); often the entries in question are for valid terms and contain other useful content (such as, as the category states, “other dictionary-related content, such as translations, synonyms, or attributions”, as well as citations, etymologies, pronunciatory transcriptions, lists of related terms, &c.). As for , it is now defined (&c.) . It is idiomatic because it shows “a thing’s inner workings” and because “its elements [are intentionally] splayed”, neither of which are facets of meaning that inhere to  or . †  ﴾(u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 15:47, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * All your quotes pertain to human anatomy, not "a thing's inner workings". I still don't see how an anatomical atlas is any different from an atlas of anatomy.  I've seen many example of both and consider the difference merely a matter of wording. --EncycloPetey 15:55, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I’ve added a 1904 citation of use pertaining to vegetable powders. An anatomical atlas showing only the human epidermis would be a bit limited in its utility. Again, undefined: is idiomatic because it refers to a conspectus that shows “a thing’s inner workings […whose] elements [are intentionally] splayed”, which is not the case for a normal (i.e., geographical) atlas. †  ﴾(u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 16:45, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * I don't think you've fully addressed EP's points; if it's true that "atlas of anatomy" has, or can have, the same sense, then it seems that "anatomical atlas" is SOP, and we need an appropriate def at [[atlas]]. (Our current sense #2, "A bound collection of tables, illustrations etc. on any given subject", may be what we need; or, we may want a specific def for this type of atlas.) —Ruakh TALK 18:59, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * But what if that sense only occurs in conjunction with, , or similar? †  ﴾(u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 19:08, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * How similar? And in how close conjunction with? For example, if I'm talking about references I used in an anatomy class, could I refer to one as an "atlas" with no "anatomy"-like word in the same sentence? If such usage is really quite rare, then it might make sense to keep this entry, but have one sense of [[atlas]] be something like "Specifically, an anatomical atlas." —Ruakh TALK 21:09, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * @ User:Doremítzwr: The "inner" part is the result of treating anatomy. That's what anatomy is all about.  As Ruakh points out, there are plenty of other kinds of atlases.  I can find multiple examples of "skeletal atlas", "cerebral atlas", "economic atlas", "social atlas", "historical atlas", "linguistic atlas", "military technical atlas", etc. --EncycloPetey 21:17, 23 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Both and  are used independently, but this doesn’t mean that  ought to be deleted. †  ﴾(u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 20:22, 24 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Correct, but not for the reasons you've implied. The term deus ex machina is a set phrase borrowed wholesale from Latin theatrical texts, and so isn't really an analogous case to this one. --EncycloPetey 20:35, 24 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Hmm. If this entry is to be deleted, how will the content currently presented at be accommodated at ? †  ﴾(u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 21:10, 24 November 2009 (UTC)


 * In at least two ways: (1) ensure there is a definition of atlas suitably written to encompass this idea, (2) include example sentences and/or quotations in which the combination anatomical atlas appears. --EncycloPetey 21:12, 24 November 2009 (UTC)


 * Done. If that’s OK with you, feel free to delete the entry for . †  ﴾(u):Raifʻhār (t):Doremítzwr﴿ 22:05, 24 November 2009 (UTC)

Yep, deleted. Mglovesfun (talk) 17:47, 16 December 2009 (UTC)