Talk:arabe du coin

RFD discussion: January–February 2021
SOP: see ("Chinois du coin", "Italien du coin", "Mexicain du coin", "Paki du coin", "Indien du coin", "bistrot du coin", "épicerie du coin", etc.). PUC – 16:41, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
 * We don't currently have senses at, that would make this SOP. Add those first. I'm also confused about how it's meaningful to describe a shop as "local"; aren't all buildings located somewhere in space? Does it mean "not belonging to a chain"?__Gamren (talk) 09:46, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I'd interpret it as meaning the closest one to where the speaker lives or is at the moment. I would understand "Je vais à l'arabe du coin" as meaning "I'm going to the Arab shop just down the street" and not to an Arab shop on the other side of town, which would of course be someone else's arabe du coin. Is the term really derogatory, though? —Mahāgaja · talk 12:09, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * I think that in English “shop on the corner” is rather idiomatic for a small neighbourhood shop. It is general in French to refer to a small neighbourhood convenience shop, usually run by immigrants, as l’arabe – regardless of the ethnicity of the people running it. An example is found in the novel , in which the grocer running l’arabe, M. Ibrahim, is Turkish; when Jewish Moïse takes over the shop, it remains l’arabe. This is summarized on the back cover, under the motto that appearances are deceptive: L’Arabe n’est pas arabe (“The Arab is not Arabic”). --Lambiam 12:54, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * In Belgium, it's more common to refer to these as, as I mentioned in . Compare 🇨🇬. PUC – 13:05, 2 January 2021 (UTC)


 * No, it doesn't mean that: "MacDo du coin", "Fnac du coin".
 * As for "local", see 🇨🇬, sense 1: "From or in a nearby location". The referential is the speaker themselves. When someone is speaking of a "X du coin", they're speaking of the X that's closest/nearest to them. See also "your local law enforcement", as well as 🇨🇬 noun, sense 1 ("A person who lives near a given place") or sense 4 ("One's nearest or regularly frequented public house or bar").
 * In French, a related item would be . PUC – 12:56, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Some uses in French of l’arabe without du coin:, , . The disregard of the actual ethnicity is not universal: . In the last reference, hidden by Google's snippeting, these appellations are called racist expressions. --Lambiam 13:19, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Then it sounds like is a word. An Italien is apparently somewhere you can buy wine. Is there a certain expectation for what a Mexicain, a Paki and a Chinois will sell? We currently have  marked as a slur.__Gamren (talk) 15:11, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * An "Italien" is simply an Italian restaurant, or possibly an Italian grocer of some sort; it's not necessarily a place specifically dedicated to selling wine. Likewise, a "Chinois" is a Chinese restaurant, and a "Mexicain" a Mexican restaurant. A "Paki/paki" is different: it's a corner shop. PUC – 16:19, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete, this is as pointless as lemmatising "bakker/slager op de hoek" (in this case the lemma should also be op de hoek). ←₰-→ Lingo Bingo Dingo (talk)  17:40, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. Imetsia (talk) 19:49, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. — فين أخاي ( تكلم معاي · ما ساهمت ) 08:16, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
 * RFD deleted, although the relevant sense of still hasn't been added.__Gamren (talk) 23:05, 21 February 2021 (UTC)