Talk:arany

Proto-Romanian is quite unlikely, as no dialect of Romanian has "ar" instead of "a-ur". It could have been some Pannonian Latin dialect. Bogdan 16:14, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

My dictionary says it is from Finno-Ugric and then in turn from an Iranian language. Qorilla 09:41, 7 July 2009 (UTC)


 * To expand what Qorilla said, according to my eymological dictionary this word originates from the Ugric period. The supposed form in the root language could have been sarańa, later *θarańa meaning: gold, copper, the initial Ugric *θ wore off in Hungarian. The word can be found in the sister languages as well, cf. Mansi tarəń, Khanty lorńə ("copper"). It is probably an Iranian borrowing, cf. Avestan zaranya-, Old Persian daraniya-, Modern Persian زر (zar) ("gold"). Equivalents in other Finno-Ugric languages are also Iranian borrowings, cf. Komi zarńi, Mordvinic sirńe, śiŕńä ("gold").  --Baron de Saint-Rémy (talk) 18:54, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
 * The word has most probably common roots with Turkic. Hence the Turkic etymology for the Hungarian word sárga, "yellow". --93.217.152.104 14:34, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
 * Hungarian is most likely a borrowing from some Turkic language, not a common inheritance. Although there is a significant minority among linguists who believe in a relationship between Uralic and Turkic languages, none of them are proposing the kind of clear-cut, obvious type of correspondence you're suggesting. Mostly it's based on similarities in the grammar and on correspondence of terms that are only vaguely similar in meaning. Chuck Entz (talk) 19:14, 5 October 2013 (UTC)