Talk:být na dvě věci: na nic a na hovno

RFV discussion: February–March 2018
This sounds weird. I didn't ever hear something like this, and the citations are also not verifiable to the term to stay here, I think (not a commonly used idiom). Thanks. Awewewe (talk) 13:13, 2 February 2018 (UTC).
 * I have no idea why this frequent saying sounds weird to you, I am really surprised that somebody living in the Czech Republic does not come across it from time to time. It is quite difficult to find quotations in permanently recorded media as it is very colloquial and people tend to avoid vulgarities in such kind of written texts, but I hear it saying in informal talks quite often. Either somebody says both parts together as it is written in the entry, or they just say the first part, receiving the answer: Já vím, na hovno a na nic. Examples of informal colloquial usage outside of permanently recorded media are here and here.


 * Three independent instances in permanently recorded media were provided in the quotation part: two printed books and one printed journal.


 * Besides that it is mentioned in Slovník nespisovné češtiny (=Dictionary of non-standard Czech), 2009, p. 260, where the entry na dvě věci says: "obv. se vysvětluje jako (=it is usually being explained as) na hovno a na nic.'' --Jan Kameníček (talk) 14:43, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
 * Cited: The attesting quotations in the entry seem okay, for the purpose of WT:ATTEST: "use in permanently recorded media, conveying meaning, in at least three independent instances spanning at least a year". I know the phrase, although I know it in the "...: na hovno a na nic" word order, but that does not seem attested. --Dan Polansky (talk) 16:40, 3 February 2018 (UTC)


 * RFV passed. Admittedly, I don't entirely like being the closer who said "cited", but let's keep things moving forward. --Dan Polansky (talk) 17:23, 4 March 2018 (UTC)