Talk:benched

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 * Time: 2005-06-12T19:40:25Z - By: w:User:62.254.0.32
 * Time: 2005-06-12T19:52:13Z - By: w:User:Niteowlneils - Comment: {Move to Wiktionary}

RFV discussion: May–December 2011
Adjective: (US sports) substituted (so has to sit on the bench)

Past participle, not adjective. See English adjectives and bench. DCDuring TALK 13:05, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The definition we have is " substituted (so has to sit on the bench)". A more general sense of "sitting on the sidelines" sees an 1830(!) cite: . [[Wiktionary:English adjectives]] includes the following test: "Can it modify a noun in attributive position (before the noun)? Only adjectives and nouns can." Is that accurate? Does a benched player not use benched as a past participle? If it is accurate, then there are sufficiently many cites (search for "a benched player"). &#x200b;—msh210℠ (talk) 15:54, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * O the irony. --Mglovesfun (talk) 16:04, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Indeed. The many (???) authors and readers of the page seem to have missed that.
 * We could say that "adjective" functions can be performed by words of many types, but the lexicographic class at Wiktionary is reserved for words meeting some specific criteria designed to prevent needless and hard-to-maintain duplicative content, without doing too much violence to the understandings of language professionals or, especially, normal users. I'm no language professional and viewed English adjectives as a draft to be improved in the wiki way by others. What it is the customary way of distinguishing adjective as functional role and as lexicographic category? Is there another way to look at it that makes it all clear? DCDuring TALK 19:34, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Deleted and striking. It does seem redundant to the verb by our tests. Equinox ◑ 15:22, 18 December 2011 (UTC)