Talk:birth

Etymology discussed on RFV
The etymology of the English word was discussed on RFV. — Beobach 23:17, 26 November 2010 (UTC)

by birth, at birth
do by birth and at birth deserve an entry? --Backinstadiums (talk) 11:40, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
 * Yes, Backinstadiums. I had to look it up at google. Thank you. sarri.greek (talk) 23:00, 10 February 2020 (UTC)


 * "At birth" at least seems totally SoP to me. What do you think it means that isn't clear from "at" and "birth"? Equinox ◑ 00:08, 11 February 2020 (UTC)


 * , I was looking for the correct expression for law and diseases. Diseases at birth or by birth. And citizenships by birth, by descent etc. As a non-anglophone i often feel uneasy about expressions, especially prepositions. I am not sure of what SoP is: a sum, a sequence of words. But thank you for your interest. sarri.greek (talk) 00:50, 11 February 2020 (UTC)


 * By SoP or "sum of parts" we mean something that can be understood from the individual words, that doesn't require special explanation. So: "that takes the cake!" is not SoP, because it's a special meaning unrelated to cakes; but "that's a purple bag!" is SoP because it's just a bag that is purple. Since I wrote the above, I have realised that "at birth" usually suggests we are talking about the child and not the mother, but I'm still not too convinced: naturally any discussion of birth defects will be about the child. Equinox ◑ 02:51, 20 February 2020 (UTC)

Etymology incorrectly links to page for "bear" the animal
According to etymonline bear "to carry" and bear the animal have different roots


 * That linked page has all kinds of bear. Just scroll down. Equinox ◑ 13:44, 8 January 2020 (UTC)