Talk:black trash

RFV discussion: September 2022–February 2023
Recently created w/o cites. Felt I should put it to RFV given WT:DEROGATORY. Winthrop23 (talk) 01:10, 13 September 2022 (UTC)


 * I assume this is an "equaliser" phrase to match the older (I remember seeing poor white trash in the Chambers Dict in the 1990s)... Equinox ◑ 05:12, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Could this be SOP? 98.170.164.88 19:08, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

--Dan Polansky (talk) 15:39, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Black World/Negro Digest - May 1962
 * ... And we ain't black trash" — how fiercely she used to add that — "We ain't black trash what goes to lying and cheating and stealing, Galey. Not never!" Recollections of her aged grandmother were no longer steadying.
 * Slow Fade to Black, Thomas Cripps · 1977
 * And a faithful black mammy confirms the point when she speaks to a Northern Negro: “Yo' northern low down black trash, don't try no airs on me!” kicking him in the pants for punctuation.
 * Daughters of Suburbia: Growing Up White, Middle Class, and ..., Lorraine Delia Kenny · 2000
 * These are just black trash (laughs). So that's what I gravitate towards ... all kinds of trash.
 * Prima Facie: A Book of Psychaotic* Essays, Richard Thomas · 2007
 * But even so, I think the riot was really one of resentment of black trash against black class, a distinction that defines two completely different sets of blacks nowadays.
 * Talking Black and White: An Intercultural Exploration of ..., Gina Castle Bell · 2017:
 * Or sometimes my parents will watch Judge Judy or something like that, um, and they're like, “they'll always be the Black trash.” They always find a way to put a Black person down before they will ever put a White person down ...
 * (mention only) African Americans in Conservative Movements, Louis G. Prisock · 2018
 * ... to a mainly white audience, regularly refers to inner-city African Americans as “black trash”: ...
 * The Nightmare of a POSITIVISION, Louise Uwacu · 2010
 * And it always looks like black trash is killing each other again. No matter how many die it does not stop.
 * So it is derogatory, not of blacks per se, but of misbehaving and/or poor blacks. Used by whites, it seems like an effort to differentiate "bad" blacks from "good" blacks. I don't think it is uncommon and I doubt anyone could produce good evidence that it is. DCDuring (talk) 16:20, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * What would evidence of being uncommon look like to you? Theknightwho (talk) 16:43, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * My imagination fails me. DCDuring (talk) 17:00, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment: The phrase was used in the 1915 silent film The Birth of a Nation (timestamp 1:42:05): "Yo' northern low down black trash, don't try no airs on me.". Because of this, I think it's likely the phrase has some historical context and shouldn't just be considered a neologism. PseudoSkull (talk) 10:45, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
 * I think that specific quote is using the words "black" and "trash" as separate terms that just happen to occur together. She's calling him trash, but the rest is just added for elaboration or emphasis. The real problem with this entry is that "trash" (sense 7, currently) is used regardless of modifier to refer to the lowest socioeconomic class, so it may be SOP: if "purple" was a racial term, I'm sure there would be somebody talking about "purple trash". At least with "white trash", it arose in a context where nonwhites were considered inherently beneath whites, so there was something paradoxic or oxymoronic about referring to whites as "trash". Chuck Entz (talk) 02:21, 30 January 2023 (UTC)

RFV Failed, no quotations on entry. Ioaxxere (talk) 22:41, 9 February 2023 (UTC)